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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 10, 2022, 10:05:45 PM
OK Boys and girls. I'm going to be adding a few small items to the cargo trailer to make it a touch more versatile. The goal is to have something that we can use to haul the quads and be a bit of a home base for a overnight camp. I plan on grabbing another roof top tent as a "sleeping area" on the back of the truck like before, but the tent will be bigger this time.

Anyways, on the trailer this is the short game
- 12v powered lights
- 12v Roof Fan
- 110v powered outlets x2 via inveter
- 110v exterior connection for "shore power"
- RV door latch for the man door

Possibly a couple slider windows in the spring with a china diesel heater, but we'll see how it goes. No plans for water or anything like that, just a sheltered area to be able to cook and have some space if we need it for something else.

Here is the basic diagram I threw together to get my thoughts "on paper".

Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 10, 2022, 10:06:42 PM
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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 10, 2022, 10:09:15 PM
The walls are nailed and glued, so I doubt I'll be insulating them at this point, but I'll put some 1" foam in the ceiling and underneath to help a little bit.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 11, 2022, 02:19:00 PM
I’m not going to pretend to understand your diagram because I dont mess with wiring of any kind unless absolutely necessary.  And even then I have to know for certain where the wires go.  Like fool proof.  Haha

I look forward to this though.  I think the trailer needs some bling to go with this though.  Wheels and tires and a vinyl wrap that Carrie’s the theme of the truck. 

Where is the second roof top tent going?  On the trailer? 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 11, 2022, 02:45:29 PM
I'm fine with wiring stuff, I'm just not looking forward to cutting holes in the trailer.

Nothing big at all on this project, still have big turbos and injectors to go into the truck and a few small things to wrap up on the Quad (and the ST is getting intake and full exhaust...)

I sold the other roof top tent I had, as it was too small for the 4 of us. I found a couple decent true four person tents that look like they will work out pretty well.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 11, 2022, 03:54:01 PM
I'm fine with wiring stuff, I'm just not looking forward to cutting holes in the trailer.

Nothing big at all on this project, still have big turbos and injectors to go into the truck and a few small things to wrap up on the Quad (and the ST is getting intake and full exhaust...)

I sold the other roof top tent I had, as it was too small for the 4 of us. I found a couple decent true four person tents that look like they will work out pretty well.
See, this is why no one believes you when you say you’re done with things. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 12, 2022, 02:01:16 AM
Well, the truck updates are sponsored and the wife likes the idea of the car having a little bark. Both are likely to happen in May, but gotta spend wisely these days, everything seems to be going up in price.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: sscully on January 12, 2022, 10:29:01 PM
I am guessing the blue item below the title ( trailer ) is a 12v battery ?
- It looks like a D cell battery.

If so; did you mean for it to bypass your 150A fuse, going to the fuse panel ?
- Also did you mean to have a 150A of 12 V power  :wow:

Keep in mind that the fuse needs to be as close to the source of the power that you can get it.

Going through the trailer wall, you either want greenfield flexible or thin wall pipe from the shore power to inside the trailer with the 110VAC line.
- Watching out for vibrations on the raw edge of the trailer and don't trust only poly grommets for repetitive movements like that.  Poly bushing with think wall or flex tube through it.  SuerGlue, lock tite, etc the poly bushing threats.

Just a few questions that stood out to me.

BTW : Before you get fuel smell in the trailer, you might want to epoxy the trailer flooring so spills don't soak into the plywood.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 13, 2022, 11:20:16 AM
I am guessing the blue item below the title ( trailer ) is a 12v battery ?
- It looks like a D cell battery.

If so; did you mean for it to bypass your 150A fuse, going to the fuse panel ?
- Also did you mean to have a 150A of 12 V power  :wow:

Keep in mind that the fuse needs to be as close to the source of the power that you can get it.

Going through the trailer wall, you either want greenfield flexible or thin wall pipe from the shore power to inside the trailer with the 110VAC line.
- Watching out for vibrations on the raw edge of the trailer and don't trust only poly grommets for repetitive movements like that.  Poly bushing with think wall or flex tube through it.  SuerGlue, lock tite, etc the poly bushing threats.

Just a few questions that stood out to me.

BTW : Before you get fuel smell in the trailer, you might want to epoxy the trailer flooring so spills don't soak into the plywood.

Thanks for reading and asking the questions. I'm sure there is going to be something that I'm missing.

As you can tell, I didn't use any "standards" in that diagram. Just threw it together to get the lay out on paper, lol.
The symbol is just to signify the battery. I have one 100ah Lithium Iron battery (self heating) on the way. It will probably do just fine, for my needs, however I may add a second.

The 150amp fuse is sized appropriately based on a 2000w inverter, it's really just being a fail safe in case of a short. All the components are individually fused. It may go in front of the power switch, but we are talking a few inches here or there, so shouldn't have too much impact.

Since I'm not planning on hooking up at RV lots, I've opted to grab a 15amp/110v molded plug which is basically an extension cord that mounts on the outside. The walls are so thin, that it will poke inside the trailer a touch. I may end up putting sheeting in the trailer, but that can be a final step.

You make a excellent point on the floor. I have been trying to figure that one out and struggling to decide on what's best to do. I found some bulk rolls of Gym mating (8mm) that I'm leaning towards, but won't be very friendly if I ever drive a sled in it. but you're right, I should at least get a coating on it, before it's too late.

Still slowly ordering and piecing together parts to do more once it warms up.


Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 13, 2022, 12:11:47 PM
They make garage floor epoxy that works well if you use a special wood primer for it.  That’s my plan eventually when I overhaul my enclosed trailer.  Easy to sweep out and even pressure wash.  Especially if you take it up the sides partially.  Might be a nightmare if you need to remove the floor for any reason but that’s another issue. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 13, 2022, 04:05:47 PM
Do you know the brand? I was looking at some stuff from Kiln that looked pretty good


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 13, 2022, 06:54:19 PM
Do you know the brand? I was looking at some stuff from Kiln that looked pretty good


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This is the email response to my question to what they recommended for my trailer.  I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position. 



Hi

We would recommend our www.armorcladepoxy.com garage system for your trailer. It can be applied to wood. Since the smallest kit we offer is 300 sq ft we would recommend that you mix up smaller quantities which is easily done and put down 2 coats plus use the Military grade topcoat option.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Customer Service

Armorpoxy, Inc.

805 Lehigh Ave.

Union, NJ 07083

908-810-9613

Fax 908-810-9612


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 13, 2022, 06:57:01 PM
That looks perfect. I need something pretty durable and could do the ramp too.


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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 13, 2022, 07:03:38 PM
That looks perfect. I need something pretty durable and could do the ramp too.


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I don’t remember how I ultimately decided on them.  Or if that was my final decision.  I’d still recommend researching them.  I think I remember being pretty impressed or I wouldn’t have emailed them. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on January 14, 2022, 06:43:31 AM
I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position.

And here I was thinking KY Jelly or something. Silly me.   :funny:
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 14, 2022, 06:57:59 AM
I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position.

And here I was thinking KY Jelly or something. Silly me.   :funny:
Damn, I’m slipping.  I didn’t even catch that one.  I’m ashamed.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 14, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
Well dang, that went right over my head too  :funny:
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: sscully on January 17, 2022, 11:38:40 PM
I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position.

And here I was thinking KY Jelly or something. Silly me.   :funny:

Leave it to the newly wed to think this way..    :wow:
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 18, 2022, 07:06:11 AM
I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position.

And here I was thinking KY Jelly or something. Silly me.   :funny:

Leave it to the newly wed to think this way..    :wow:
We could use that excuse but I got married in October. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: sscully on January 19, 2022, 03:10:02 PM
Do you know the brand? I was looking at some stuff from Kiln that looked pretty good

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This is the email response to my question to what they recommended for my trailer.  I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position. 

Dumb question, mixed with a hair brained idea.

1. Is this epoxy going to be too slick to walk on ?

2. It would require finding another way to spin ( bike spinner ?) the 4 wheelers into place, but how about truck bed liner on the floor ?
- I have this on the wood stairs to my basement for going on 20 years now, and it is working well; but I don't want to slide anything on that...
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 19, 2022, 03:24:31 PM
Do you know the brand? I was looking at some stuff from Kiln that looked pretty good

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This is the email response to my question to what they recommended for my trailer.  I explained I was looking for something very durable, applied to wood, that would stand up to power sliding/throttling four wheelers in to a sideways position. 

Dumb question, mixed with a hair brained idea.

1. Is this epoxy going to be too slick to walk on ?

2. It would require finding another way to spin ( bike spinner ?) the 4 wheelers into place, but how about truck bed liner on the floor ?
- I have this on the wood stairs to my basement for going on 20 years now, and it is working well; but I don't want to slide anything on that...
I can’t speak for Ryan but for me it’s about finding a balance between enough traction to walk on and slick enough to slide the tires.  If it’s anything like other garage floor epoxies, I think it would work just right.  It would also be super easy to sweep up, blow out, hose down or pressure wash.  This is important since I’ll 100% be bringing in a muddy machine every time I use it. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 19, 2022, 03:41:01 PM
I’ve reached out to them to see if they will ship to Canada or have a Canadian distributor. I found a couple other options, but don’t seem quite as good.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 19, 2022, 10:39:13 PM
Looks like they ship to Canada, but I have to apply the coating in above freezing temps. I'll probably order it up in the next couple of weeks and then see if I can borrow a friend BIG DA (floor polisher) to sand the wood before applying.

I think I have pretty close to all the wire I will need ordered up. Now I'll get some of the "small" stuff like lights, fan and switch panel to start figuring out the wiring.

After some thought, the trailer will be better with insulation, so I got a good nail puller and will see what it takes to remove a panel. I would simply do 1" foam well taped and leave it at that.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 20, 2022, 07:02:50 AM
I’m surprised they’re nailed in.  Ever enclosed trailer I’ve ever seen has used screws. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 20, 2022, 10:05:45 AM
Me too, I was expecting screws when I picked it up, but it wasn’t a deal breaker.

Apparently they use some special nail gun that shoots nails right into the steel supports.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 20, 2022, 10:24:14 AM
We have had probs my 8 enclosed trailers and I’ve never seen that before.  I will say though that the screws always come loose.  The inside screws and the outside screws that hold the aluminum panels on.  My work trailer actually goes in for inspection and warranty work for that exact reason.  The outside screws come loose every day.  The front exterior panels are being ripped off and blowing in the breeze.  I actually had to pull over and duct tape them down.  Happened just months after using the trailer.  The man door is the same way.  I have to tighten in daily just so it doesn’t sag so I can open and close it and it doesn’t want to fall off.  The glue inside helps keep the wood to the walls up the screws themselves back out. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 20, 2022, 10:58:05 AM
Maybe that is why they went this way. They tout that they are a "quality" built trailer. Who knows, but I have a feeling it's going to suck to try and get the panels off. There are no visible exterior screws on this trailer, it looks pretty clean from the outside.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 20, 2022, 11:21:43 AM
Maybe that is why they went this way. They tout that they are a "quality" built trailer. Who knows, but I have a feeling it's going to suck to try and get the panels off. There are no visible exterior screws on this trailer, it looks pretty clean from the outside.
I’d be curious how the nails hold up.  We buy new trailers every few years.  The last couple have been a nightmare.  I doubt yours will see the road and abuse that ours see so maybe it won’t matter.  I come close to maxing mine out daily weight wise but the other crew tends to overload theirs because combined they can still barely tie their shoes.  That’s probably why they broke three leaf springs this year and two hitches last year.  Our torsion set up on previous trailers seemed a bit more durable but the leaf spring set up seems better on tires.  Far less blow outs.  The spring shackles do tend to wear out pretty fast but are an easy fix if you keep an eye on them.

Anyway, as far as the outside, my current trailer is the first one I had that doesn’t have exterior screws from the factory.  They’re just glued it seems.  I say from the factory because when we took it in for service of those front panels earlier in the year, the dealers make shift fix was to just throw screws in the side until winter.  Those screws, like all of our other trailers, just vibrated out.  Which meant more duct tape.  I can’t wait to see their final repair next week when I take it back in.  Also hope they fix the rear panel but I can’t blame that on quality control.  I got impatient in traffic at a notoriously busy toll booth in Newark and sped through a toll booth.  Didn’t know it at the time but I guess I clipped the booth on the way out and tour up the trim, brake light and panel on the driver side.  Figured it out when I got to the job and got out and saw it.  Oops. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 21, 2022, 11:33:43 AM
Mine will see some rough roads, but I highly doubt I will ever over load it. We'll see how it holds up, because I'll be replacing the nails with screws when the wood goes back on (if I can get it off).

Hopefully this all plays out as I hope and the trailer can be usable for more than just hauling stuff around.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on January 21, 2022, 11:52:52 AM
Mine will see some rough roads, but I highly doubt I will ever over load it. We'll see how it holds up, because I'll be replacing the nails with screws when the wood goes back on (if I can get it off).

Hopefully this all plays out as I hope and the trailer can be usable for more than just hauling stuff around.
Our don’t necessarily see rough roads.  All paved surfaces for the most part.  Although our roads leave a lot to be desired.  Pennsylvanias road and bridges rank either second last or dead last in the country. Go big or go home I guess.  Be so bad that no one can be worse.  Our trailers just see a lot of miles.  Roughly a thousand miles a week.  A lot of highway so a lot of vibration from the air.  That’s what I assume is the issue.  I usually have the pedal buried. Fortunately my new work truck this year only does 79mph. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 27, 2022, 11:58:25 PM
Little bit’s being ordered here and there. Lots of the 12v wiring came in and the first “big” purchase, the battery. 100ah Lithium Iron battery that is self heating. I think it will do pretty well for my needs.
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Next up will be attempting to pull the plywood from the inside. If I can get it out, I’ll get the windows, fan and insulation foam to get things really started.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 08, 2022, 12:06:10 AM
I was able to pull the inside panels off the front. It wasn’t too bad. Grabbed some insulation and pick up some checker plate later this week. I should be able to fix my boo-boo this weekend and then move on from there.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 08, 2022, 11:02:32 PM
Windows came in today. I guess I’m going to have to start doing some actual work on it now, lol.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 09, 2022, 07:33:31 PM
So we are in our off season at work so we have all of our trailers in for inspection.  Like I mentioned before I think, mine needed a bunch of warranty work done.  Well they’ve had it for weeks now and when I called to ask about it, they told me the manufacturer doesn’t want to send them any parts because it means they will have less parts to manufacture new trailers.  Haha.  Awesome.  Dealership actually sent a guy out to Indiana to pick up the parts himself. 

The trailer I picked up today had three cracked outriggers on the frame.  That’s probably the third trailer like that. 

Hopefully yours is built better than all of ours. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 09, 2022, 11:32:40 PM
That’s brutal!

I’m not seeing anything super special about how this thing is built, but the brand is well rated. Time will tell I guess.

I picked up a 8ft awning to bolt to the side of it and the checker plate to fix my boo boo on the front. Hopefully I can spend a little bit of time on it this weekend. I’m trying to get the quad stuff done, but distractions everywhere are slowing that effort down.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 19, 2022, 08:06:21 PM
Started ripping the plywood off the inside. They were not messing around with the nails, many took the heads off trying to pull them out.

The plan is to mock up some of the lights and items that I plan on installing next. It’s going to get cold here again, so not sure when I’ll spend some more time on it.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 19, 2022, 08:27:31 PM
What’s the plan for the ceiling?  I assume there wasn’t any wood up there.  Atleast I haven’t seen one with it yet.  But if you’re insulating then I imagine you want to do something about that. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 19, 2022, 10:31:06 PM
I’m going to try and do 2” insulation on the ceiling, then some simple wood strapping that will let me put some kind of wood finishing panels. Pine Tongue and groove seems to be fairly cheep (for wood prices anyway). Then I could just clear stain it or something.

We’ll see how ambitious I actually am once I start with getting the insulation in.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 20, 2022, 05:35:41 PM
So you’re going to build the ceiling down some then?  That square tubing isn’t 2” is it?  You could always use a lighter 1/8” (3mm) plywood and attach it right to the cross bars.  And if you do the ceiling before the walls, the walls can butt up against it and help hold up the edges.  What does the top of the roof look like?  I was thinking coating it with the stuff they use on campers and RVs would help reduce that oven affect trailers get when sunlight is blasting down on top of the metal panels. 

By the way, no word on my trailer yet.  I don’t even know if they ever got the parts for it since my boss returned from his vacation and I’ve left all of that to him now.  It was supposed to be completed last Monday. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 20, 2022, 08:39:03 PM
I think they are just 1” square tubing that’s a little thicker walled. I was thinking I could just cut out the insulation where the tubes are, but may just do two layers of 1” thick insulation. 2” is actually cheaper, so was thinking how I could use it instead.

I’ll be putting the sheeting back over the insulation on the walls, but then would like to finish it with something. It’s just a cargo trailer, so I’m trying to temper my expectations around what it “could” look like with some nicer materials.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 20, 2022, 08:40:02 PM
The roof is just sheet aluminum, so it would probably be smart to cover it with something like the RV guys do.


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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 20, 2022, 08:48:30 PM
So I have no faith in screws in trailers.  I think you said you’re going back with nails but regardless, I don’t trust any of it long term.  You could always rip 2x4s down to 2x2 (real measurements would be 1 1/2” by 2”)  and bolt through the wood and the cross tubes essentially giving you the 2” drop you need for the insulation.  The bolts will never come undone and you can then use wood screws and attach plywood to the ripped 2x2s and it should hold no problem.  My work trailer is getting bolts everywhere that fails next time. 

What got me thinking about the outside of the roof is our trailers get so hot you can’t touch them in the summer. And when I should to load truck when I was younger those trucks were awful.  Anything to reflect that heat back off of it would be great and what better than what they use on RVs.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2022, 12:27:02 AM
I’ve been doing some looking and will likely be doing screws. We’ll see how it goes as I’ll probably put less miles on mine in a year vs. one of your company trailers in a week.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 23, 2022, 04:00:24 PM
I do t know what’s going on with my work trailer but the completion date is now March 2nd.  Apparently the parts still aren’t in.  I guess be careful with your trailer not to break anything that you may need to order.  It might not be available.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 23, 2022, 04:21:55 PM
That sucks, but I've heard the same around here. A couple guys were bitching that they couldn't even get a set of leaf's.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 23, 2022, 04:25:13 PM
Pretty much all the "big" items purchased and now I need some warm weather again.
I may try to do a mock up/rough in of some wiring in the power cabinet. If I can at least get the breaker, power switch, fuse box and bus bars figured out, it will make it easier down the road.

I also have to figure out this little Chinese Diesel Heater, the instructions are straight outta Google Translate and make NO SENSE.
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on February 23, 2022, 04:47:03 PM
I also have to figure out this little Chinese Diesel Heater, the instructions are straight outta Google Translate and make NO SENSE.

I'll bet they're entertaining as hell though.  :funny:
Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on February 23, 2022, 05:32:30 PM
That sucks, but I've heard the same around here. A couple guys were bitching that they couldn't even get a set of leaf's.
Great.  Replaced three of them last year.  Should be an interesting year if these trailers keep falling apart.  We’ll have to buy a new trailer just to keep trailers on the road. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 01, 2022, 12:50:59 AM
I was able to get a few things done today. This may turn out to be way more work than I planned, lol.

Exhaust for heater, 120v external power plug and some framing for electrical stuff in.

Next is a couple more frame pieces and then onto window frames.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on March 01, 2022, 08:36:36 AM
Baby steps.  Haha.  This is the boring part. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 04, 2022, 12:49:36 AM
I finished up the bracing for the power center and got some insulation in.

Next up is the framing for the windows and brace for the exterior light.

Then more insulation.

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Post by: Too Stroked on March 04, 2022, 06:43:39 AM
Looking really nice! Are you going to beef up the suspension to handle the extra weight?
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Post by: Kitzy on March 04, 2022, 07:45:55 AM
Coming along nicely.  I bet that poor truck is feeling neglected lately.  It’s going to throw a check engine light just to get some attention. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 04, 2022, 09:19:28 AM
If it had feelings, it wouldn’t be too happy with me right now.
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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 05, 2022, 12:46:38 AM
Spent a couple hours this evening on the trailer.
Most of the insulation is done for the walls and started the framing for one of the windows.

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It takes a while to do the insulation as I have to trim out the extra panel adhesive.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on March 05, 2022, 08:31:58 PM
How bad is that extra glue/adhesive to get off?  I see the window propped up there.  I was wondering what they looked like.  I like those. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 05, 2022, 09:25:38 PM
It’s not too bad, it’s pretty firm rubber like adhesive, so a sharp OLFA knife takes it off pretty easy.

The windows are 3ft x 17”, so a decent size, but not that big unfortunately. I think they will do pretty well for what I need.


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 05, 2022, 09:29:44 PM
I did some more work this afternoon, finishing up the framing of one window, put in a support plate for one of the exterior lights and knocked out some more insulation. I ran out of spray foam and aluminum tape, so gotta grab some more before I start routing some wires and getting some panels back on.

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Post by: Kitzy on March 06, 2022, 07:06:07 PM
Is that door going to get an RV door handle/latch?  And if so, are you going to remove that swinging bar style that’s on there now?  I wouldn’t trust that someone wouldn’t latch it while you’re in there.  I’ve had someone at work do that to me by accident and then walk away. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 06, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Is that door going to get an RV door handle/latch?  And if so, are you going to remove that swinging bar style that’s on there now?  I wouldn’t trust that someone wouldn’t latch it while you’re in there.  I’ve had someone at work do that to me by accident and then walk away. 


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Yeah, I have a RV latch for it, but haven’t gotten to that yet. I will leave the bar on, but lock the flap closed when We are using the trailer for anything but transportation or storage. That way someone can’t lock us in. I’m thinking about putting a latch on the back ramp for too, that way we have an alternative exit if needed.


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 06, 2022, 11:49:30 PM
Most of the roof insulation is done and some more taping done.

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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on March 07, 2022, 11:35:21 AM
It’s coming a long nicely.  I e joy seeing the progress and look forward to seeing the final outcome. 
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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 07, 2022, 11:59:28 AM
I'll try and do a short video this week. Might show a little better "picture" of what's going on and raise some questions, lol.
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Post by: Kitzy on March 07, 2022, 02:15:50 PM
Raise some questions…. Haha.

I forgot to mention my boss text me this morning to tell me my trailer won’t be ready until the first week of April now.  They still do not have the parts and are scheduled to ship March 17. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 08, 2022, 01:30:26 PM
One correction from the video that I forgot to mention. I’ll be running some of the wiring before I put the plywood back up. The goal is to have as much of the wiring hidden behind panels as I possibly can.

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Post by: Kitzy on March 08, 2022, 06:01:03 PM
The tongue and groove pine, is that for the walls or the ceiling?  There’s not a lot of it there.  I was a little surprised to see the windows positioned so low.  I do t think I would like bending down to look out of them.  One thing I haven’t considered is stability of the trailer when parked for camping.  Will it remain hooked to the truck and will you have a way to take the load off of the leaf springs so it’s not bouncy when you’re moving around? 


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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 08, 2022, 07:31:42 PM
Good questions!

That is just a few of the 8ft boards I have for the front walls. There is another pile in the garage of 16 footers for the side walls. I couldn’t decide what to put on the ceiling yet, so I don’t have anything to go up there yet unfortunately.

The window height was determined base on being able to look in if we have to see what the kids were up to and being a little bit lower then the el ‘cheapo awning I bought. They will also work well for when we are sitting in the trailer or want to look out of the bed. The plan is also to flip the axles and that will raise the whole trailer a bit.

For stability, I’m going to start out with what I’m doing now and using jack stands on the four corners. Makes it pretty stable. In the future, I plan on putting in stability jacks.


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Post by: Kitzy on March 08, 2022, 07:46:03 PM
The plan for the windows makes way more sense now.  And thinking about it, you’re not likely to be spending a ton of time standing or walking around inside. 

Will you be attempting to level the trailer when you set up camp or just find the most level spot possible?  Jackstands sound like a pain in the ass.  A pair of x chocks might not be a bad idea either if you have the room for them between your axles.  Unless you’re tires will be off the ground then it won’t matter. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 09, 2022, 01:45:27 AM
I hope to get it somewhat level. I have wheel chocks to raise a side if needed.

The jack stands are absolutely a pain in the ass. I pop the trailer off the truck, then lower the tongue jack so the trailer is a little nose down. Then put jack stands under the rear, crank the tongue jack up so it’s a little nose high and then finally put jack stands under the front and lower the front onto the stands. It makes for a very stable trailer though.

Framing in for the roof fan and insulation finished up. Even got one piece of plywood back on. I put a piece of insulation back in the fan hole since I’m not sure when I’ll get around to cutting out the roof.

Now I can clear some crap out of the trailer to make room for other crap.
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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 10, 2022, 10:57:24 PM
Some wood back in, then some pine T&V before making holes for outlets.


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 10, 2022, 10:58:05 PM
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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 12, 2022, 01:19:17 AM
Finally got some T&G up. Sure is a tedious process.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on March 12, 2022, 06:56:40 AM
Starting to have a homey kind of feel to it.  Looking good.  I like it.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on March 12, 2022, 08:30:35 AM
Looks beautiful! I'd be taking a serious look at the increased weight causing a need for upgrades to suspension, brakes, tires, etc. though. 
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Post by: Kitzy on March 12, 2022, 08:43:19 AM
Looks beautiful! I'd be taking a serious look at the increased weight causing a need for upgrades to suspension, brakes, tires, etc. though.
I would think as long as he doesn’t go over the gvwr of the trailer or be close to it at all times, he should be ok.  What I would watch is the outriggers of the frame, the side to side parts of the frame outside of the main frame rails.  Ours break all the time.  With the added weight of the walls and whatever you put on the ceiling, all of that weight will accumulate where the walls meet the floor.  It may never be an issue but it’s just something to watch out for. 


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Post by: Too Stroked on March 12, 2022, 10:06:24 AM
Looks beautiful! I'd be taking a serious look at the increased weight causing a need for upgrades to suspension, brakes, tires, etc. though.
I would think as long as he doesn’t go over the gvwr of the trailer or be close to it at all times, he should be ok.  What I would watch is the outriggers of the frame, the side to side parts of the frame outside of the main frame rails.  Ours break all the time.  With the added weight of the walls and whatever you put on the ceiling, all of that weight will accumulate where the walls meet the floor.  It may never be an issue but it’s just something to watch out for. 


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Good point - especially when he adds the weight of the bedroom furniture required when the wife throws him out for spending too much on the trailer.  :funny:
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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 12, 2022, 12:30:26 PM
Good points for sure. This is not a heavy duty trailer, but does have a higher GVW of 7800#s compared to others I saw. Base trailer weighed 2500#s

My goal was to keep the add ons around 500#s which should let me have 4500#s of cargo and still have some buffer.

Right now with the quad and all the other crap I bring, we are around 1500#’s of cargo.

I’m hopeful that the structure is sturdy enough for anything I add. It’s the same style and materials they use for their fully insulated trailers with windows and water tanks, etc.


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 13, 2022, 01:06:19 AM
I was able to get a little more done today amongst family duties.

T&G halfway up both sides and four 120v outlets mounted with pigtails run up to the roof.

I’m not sure how much time I’ll have over the next couple of days, but I would like to get all the wiring roughed in, all plywood in and the cabinet mounted.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on March 14, 2022, 09:20:58 AM
Speaking of bedroom furniture, what is the plan for that?  Air mattresses, camping cots or mattresses?  Should have installed a couple Murphy beds.  Haha


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Post by: Blown F-150 on March 14, 2022, 09:23:11 PM
For now, the plan is a simple full size collapsing frame and a air mattress that has a foam topper for the Wife and I. The kids are getting camping bunk beds. They can be a couch or a bunk beds. Similar to what we would use in a ground tent.
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Post by: Blown F-150 on April 09, 2022, 08:31:07 AM
My Wife has been gone on a business trip all week and won’t be back until Monday, but when she’s back, work will spin back up on the trailer.

Going to finish the pine T&G first, then do all the electrical. I’ve decided that I just going to do some simple smooth finish plywood on the ceiling and not try to get fancy.

The floor will be last. I’m still leaning towards that epoxy that Mike posted about earlier. I need decent temps to apply, so it may take a few weeks.


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Post by: Kitzy on April 09, 2022, 09:43:48 AM
You should definitely do that epoxy floor.  I need a Guinea pig incase it sucks. 

Also, just dropped my camper off for the new owners.  It’s gone.  Sold it for more than we payed for it a year ago and came out with a little extra cash. 

Oh and my work trailer finally got finished yesterday morning.  I’m ready to be done with that trailer shop/dealer but it’s not my call. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on April 24, 2022, 07:57:57 AM
Glad you made out well on the 5th wheel, crazy how prices have jumped. Inflation is a b*tch though, we are seeing everything go up in price.

I hope the work trailer holds up for a while, I’m going to guess that the shop your boss is using, is not a good one, lol.

I didn’t get any after pictures, but a friend came down to help and we finished up the pine on the walls and got a coat of clear waterproofing stain on.


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Post by: Kitzy on April 24, 2022, 08:50:56 AM
Glad you made out well on the 5th wheel, crazy how prices have jumped. Inflation is a b*tch though, we are seeing everything go up in price.

I hope the work trailer holds up for a while, I’m going to guess that the shop your boss is using, is not a good one, lol.

I didn’t get any after pictures, but a friend came down to help and we finished up the pine on the walls and got a coat of clear waterproofing stain on.


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It’s the shop we have used for 10+ years and they have never let us down.  They have actually gone above and beyond for us in the past.  I don’t want to hold this against them too much as I know businesses are struggling everywhere, especially with having enough employees, let alone good employees.  Shipping it out the door with a flat pissed me off.  And the fact that they used screws to secure the panel on an otherwise screw less trailer. 

I look forward to seeing the trailer.  We went to dinner at a friends house recently and he had a trailer I did t even know about and he was doing the same thing.  On a smaller scale though.  Not quite as fancy but it will be functionally the same. 


Editing because I realized I didn’t mention the day I picked it up.  I got there and they were just stickering it for inspection.  This was after deciding to finally inspect it the day it was supposed to be ready for pickup and telling us we needed axle seals and two new tires.   My boss had them replace the wheels and tires With brand new ones and we would have the old tires replaced on the wheels for spares.   I got a few miles from the trailer shop and stopped to go to the bathroom only to see the completely flat tire.  The truck I had didn’t have a jack or any wood blocks.  But I did have an impact in the trailer and two Sapir wheels and tires so I got creative.  All of this after the idiot who forked my trailer out in to the yard for me to hook up put it on blocks so high I could lower the jack enough to hook up. 

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Post by: Blown F-150 on April 24, 2022, 06:11:46 PM
That is pretty crappy, glad you figured something out.

I’m surprised you guys are using 6 bolt wheels, everything around here that is HD, is 8 bolt wheels.

On the road again tomorrow, but hope to make a big dent in the trailer progress of the next couple of weeks. I want to get out for the weekend after May Long


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Post by: Kitzy on April 26, 2022, 05:04:46 PM
That is pretty crappy, glad you figured something out.

I’m surprised you guys are using 6 bolt wheels, everything around here that is HD, is 8 bolt wheels.

On the road again tomorrow, but hope to make a big dent in the trailer progress of the next couple of weeks. I want to get out for the weekend after May Long


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I never even gave it any though to the lugs.  They are 9,990 gvwr trailers.  Some of the guys tend to overload them but In all honesty, they’re junk.  Even though they’re rated for 10k, they can’t handle that on a daily basis, 1,000 miles per week.  But any heavier duty and we would need CDLs. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on April 26, 2022, 08:16:36 PM
Ah, I see. That makes sense, anything over 10k pounds up here and we need a “class 3” license to pull.  The 8 bolt trailers up here are considerably beefier though.


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Title: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on May 03, 2022, 09:55:40 PM
Second coat of stain done on the walls.

Next up is FINALLY some power stuff.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on May 04, 2022, 06:18:54 AM
Nice! Is that a spa or your trailer? Wait a minute, we might be onto something here ...
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Post by: Blown F-150 on May 04, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
Well, it is meant to be used to get away and relax, lol.

I am pretty disappointed about how dark this so called “clear” stain made the wood, but I’m not sanding it down now.


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Post by: Kitzy on May 04, 2022, 07:34:56 PM
I think it looks good.  Gives it a real finished look without the actual look of stain. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on May 13, 2022, 11:10:33 PM
Slowly getting to the electrical. Took a fair amount of planning to figure all the holes Inhad to drill, but the electrical cabinet and one breaker box are mounted.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on May 14, 2022, 05:57:10 AM
I think you should cut some holes in the ceiling and add some skylights.  I’m semi kidding.  It’s be pretty cool but at this point not worth the effort.  It’s just my claustrophobia talking shit.  I get paranoid every time I walk in our trailers if the back ramp is closed up. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on May 14, 2022, 07:00:25 AM
I'm still thinking sauna.
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Post by: Blown F-150 on May 14, 2022, 09:37:00 AM
I think you should cut some holes in the ceiling and add some skylights.  I’m semi kidding.  It’s be pretty cool but at this point not worth the effort.  It’s just my claustrophobia talking shit.  I get paranoid every time I walk in our trailers if the back ramp is closed up. 


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I agree, but very hopeful it will feel better once the windows are in. I always have the option of adding a couple more if needed.


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Post by: Kitzy on May 14, 2022, 06:17:47 PM
I think you should cut some holes in the ceiling and add some skylights.  I’m semi kidding.  It’s be pretty cool but at this point not worth the effort.  It’s just my claustrophobia talking shit.  I get paranoid every time I walk in our trailers if the back ramp is closed up. 


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I agree, but very hopeful it will feel better once the windows are in. I always have the option of adding a couple more if needed.


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Honestly, even our camper felt weird to me and a bit off.  The small room, low ceiling and relative difficulty of getting up and moving in a hurry freaked me out.  I would probs lay even consider some type of screened enclosure for the back opening.   Our camper had a roll up split screen that velcroed in the middle.  Granted the ramp would be in deck form and not on the ground where bears and other animals could help themselves but I’m sure there’s something you could do if you got creative enough. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on May 14, 2022, 06:55:14 PM
I’m not too bad that way, as long as I have two ways to get out, I’m happy.

I was thinking about bolting a couple of these to the ramp door to use it as a “deck”. Plans are to do some kind of bug screen across the back, but I haven’t looked into them much yet.

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Post by: Kitzy on May 14, 2022, 07:03:17 PM
We had those on one of our work trailers.  They were under the frame though at the back and not on the ramps but I can’t see why they wouldn’t work for that purpose. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on June 25, 2022, 11:55:17 PM
Cut out the wood for the windows and got some wiring done. The game plan is to be done for August long weekend.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on June 26, 2022, 06:33:40 AM
Sweet!
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Post by: Rollingrock on June 26, 2022, 11:11:39 PM
this project is getting so awesome.

I have wanted to do this just for cycling.  The plan now is to trade my current camper which is 30 ft and get something around 17 ft.   

This is a fun read and watch.

JP

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Post by: Kitzy on June 27, 2022, 05:42:03 PM
I agree with Jason.  This has been a fun thread to follow.  It’s looking good.  Those window cut outs came out nice. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on June 27, 2022, 11:57:58 PM
Thanks guys!

It’s taking way longer than I wanted, but it is slowly moving along.

Tackled some more of the electrical after the kiddos went bed.

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Post by: Blown F-150 on June 29, 2022, 12:03:24 AM
More cables built and routed.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on June 29, 2022, 06:22:22 AM
As one who appreciates nice, neat wiring - and understands how hard it is to actually do - I like it!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on June 29, 2022, 09:09:57 PM
It’s certainly a little off, but good enough for a trailer.


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Post by: Kitzy on July 01, 2022, 02:16:40 PM
I dont know jack about wiring.  Looks tidy.  I like it.  Haha


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on July 01, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
It’s certainly a little off, but good enough for a trailer.


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Are you kidding? That wiring looks better than 98% of the wiring I come in contact with in cars and boats. You would absolutely not believe some of the rats nest style messes I find in boats.
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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 04, 2022, 06:09:22 PM
“Power Center” wiring completed. Now to get the switch box mounted and wired up.

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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 29, 2022, 12:06:16 PM
I probably won't be able to do much else after I get he awning and Vent fan in, before the trip next week. But it's is a decent enough of a spot to take. I'm pretty happy with all the power and wiring. The windows make a huge difference.

https://youtu.be/CZBPA_kkyIY
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Post by: Kitzy on July 29, 2022, 05:12:33 PM
I probably won't be able to do much else after I get he awning and Vent fan in, before the trip next week. But it's is a decent enough of a spot to take. I'm pretty happy with all the power and wiring. The windows make a huge difference.

https://youtu.be/CZBPA_kkyIY
That looks awesome.  I really want to see a floor.  I realize that’s not priority but that’s what I’m really waiting for. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 29, 2022, 09:55:24 PM
The floor should happen right after I get back from the trip. I’m really looking forward to it too!


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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 30, 2022, 03:27:04 PM
Got a couple things done before it got too hot today.

Awning and small folding table.

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Kitzy on July 30, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
How does that folding table operate?  Does it use the folding brackets that always coming across my news feed from Amazon?  I put two of them on my smoker so I have a place to wrap my meat in foil but it’s still easy to store and not take up room.  I also have a similar table in my work trailer that I’ve missed dearly every time my trailer is in for service and I need to use a different trailer.  My tables don’t look as nice as yours.  Hell, my work table is a door cut in half. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 30, 2022, 05:52:37 PM
Exactly.  I just grabbed some of those brackets from Amazon and the top is a marketplace find for $10. I wouldn’t put a ton of weight on it, but it will easily hold 30lbs or so.


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Post by: Rollingrock on July 30, 2022, 06:53:26 PM
Saw your new vid on YT, man that shit is looking so clean dude.  Nice job

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Post by: Blown F-150 on July 30, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
Saw your new vid on YT, man that shit is looking so clean dude.  Nice job
Thanks JP! It’s taken waaayyy longer than I planned, but it’s coming along pretty well.

I really hope to get the roof fan in tomorrow and then I’m going to fab up some sorta ghetto hitch to put the back rack on the back of it.


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on July 31, 2022, 10:37:32 PM
The last two items that I needed to do before the trip are done, so anything else I get done will be gravy.

Vent fan installed finally. It sure moves a ton of air, but I will see if I need to swap for a AC unit of some kind down the road. I just quickly screwed the light back in place so it could be used for now.

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Next up is a hitch in the back to hold a bike rack. It’s a little redneck, but I put the rack in and hung off of it with movement at all. It should be pretty solid, but the trip will be the acid test, lol.

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Post by: Kitzy on August 01, 2022, 02:57:10 PM
The last two items that I needed to do before the trip are done, so anything else I get done will be gravy.

Vent fan installed finally. It sure moves a ton of air, but I will see if I need to swap for a AC unit of some kind down the road. I just quickly screwed the light back in place so it could be used for now.

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Next up is a hitch in the back to hold a bike rack. It’s a little redneck, but I put the rack in and hung off of it with movement at all. It should be pretty solid, but the trip will be the acid test, lol.

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So I didn’t see the underneath picture on Facebook. I was wondering how you secured that hitch.  I like it.


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Post by: Blown F-150 on August 01, 2022, 04:46:12 PM
You wouldn't want to "pull" anything with it (not what it's made for obviously), but I did add some bracing on the backside of that rear plate as well. I hung on the bike rack like a monkey and it was really solid. All the hitch stuff was just laying around in the garage, so it was all but free.
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Post by: Kitzy on August 01, 2022, 06:01:38 PM
You wouldn't want to "pull" anything with it (not what it's made for obviously), but I did add some bracing on the backside of that rear plate as well. I hung on the bike rack like a monkey and it was really solid. All the hitch stuff was just laying around in the garage, so it was all but free.
Yeah just looking at it, it’s not going anywhere for it’s intended purpose. 


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on August 06, 2022, 12:21:48 AM
Everything worked out pretty well on day 1. Wicked side wind, but everything was stable at 65-70mph.

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Post by: Kitzy on August 06, 2022, 05:35:55 AM
So 8.7 mpg for us simple folks.  The kilometers and the liters I understand but what’s with the liters per 100 kilometers.  That’s unnecessary.

Overall 600 miles though.  That’s a good bit of driving to see how everything held up.  Glad it all worked as advertised. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on August 06, 2022, 07:41:46 AM
It’s odd, but it is the metric we use for fuel economy. The other is kms per litre, but it didn’t seem to catch on.

Another 500 or so miles today and we’ll be at the destination. I pick up the family from the airport today. They elected to fly the first leg, which is probably best for all of us, lol.


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Post by: Kitzy on August 06, 2022, 08:55:37 AM
Kilometers per liter makes so much more sense.  Weird.  I guess whatever came first and everyone got accustomed to. 

That’s a lot of solo driving.  Sometimes I think that’s the way to go.  Especially when a certain “other half” thinks silence is awkward and I dislike small talk.  Not a good mix. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on August 06, 2022, 09:20:26 PM
Second leg done! Head wind killed the MPGs even a little more. Look at the litres burned and remember that gas is $2 a litre here, ouch!

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Post by: Blown F-150 on August 06, 2022, 10:55:04 PM
My sleeping accommodations for last night
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Post by: Kitzy on August 09, 2022, 06:56:37 PM
My sleeping accommodations for last night
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You sleep in the trailer at someone’s house?  Haha.  What are the temperatures like there? 

On a side note, my sister just came up to borrow some camping gear.  She has decided to go tent camping for the first time in her life in the kiddie of August.  It’s been hot and humid all week with temps over 100.  You won’t catch me tent camping in that but I would love to see how it goes for her. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on August 09, 2022, 09:55:46 PM
Ha, I realized that post is pretty confusing. That is how I slept the night of the first day before we made it to the destination. I stopped at a help center right at the boarder between provinces. Just me and the semi trucks, lol.

Temp was down to 14c at night, so pretty ideal for the trailer and a sleeping bag.


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Post by: Too Stroked on August 11, 2022, 02:23:51 PM
My sleeping accommodations for last night
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You sleep in the trailer at someone’s house?  Haha.  What are the temperatures like there? 

On a side note, my sister just came up to borrow some camping gear.  She has decided to go tent camping for the first time in her life in the kiddie of August.  It’s been hot and humid all week with temps over 100.  You won’t catch me tent camping in that but I would love to see how it goes for her. 


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I've been in motel rooms while on the road that were far worse than that!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on October 18, 2022, 10:32:33 AM
The trailer has been getting a fair amount of use, which is great. Last weekend was camping with Ollie and his Boy Scout troupe and the weekend before was getting out on the quads. Hoping to go riding again this weekend before the weather turns cold.

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Post by: Too Stroked on October 18, 2022, 02:18:44 PM
Looks like everybody was having a great time!
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Post by: Kitzy on October 18, 2022, 05:43:36 PM
I was just about to talk crap about it being too cold to ride before I realized that, one, your cold is probs my drastically different than our cold and, two, last time I was in tennessee we called it quits early because it was too cold.  Haha

Looks like fun though and glad the trailer is working as planned.  That’s awesome!


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Post by: Blown F-150 on October 18, 2022, 07:33:08 PM
Not gonna lie, it has been amazingly warm during the day, like low 70’s. It gets pretty chilly as soon as the sun drops though.

Tomorrow is out last nice day, then it turns to real fall weather apparently.


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Post by: Kitzy on January 05, 2023, 07:01:50 PM
So what’s the status on this?  Where ya been, Ryan?  Bought any new wheels and tires lately?


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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Too Stroked on January 06, 2023, 06:43:50 AM
He lives!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 06, 2023, 04:39:00 PM
Man, it has been a rough fall and winter with the family being sick. Even over Xmas we spent much of it in the house and the yard. I haven't been doing much other than letting vehicles get dirty, lol.

We did have some fun last weekend with the kids and my nieces out west at the offroad area. I'll add some pics from my phone.

I hope everyone had a great holiday season!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 06, 2023, 04:44:11 PM
It was a fun time.

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Post by: Kitzy on January 06, 2023, 04:54:19 PM
You’ve acquired a few extra kids I see.  Haha

Anytime outdoors is a good time.  I’m jealous because my neighbor left for Tennessee where I normally ride but I didnt want to spend the money to go and it wouldn’t  have mattered because I have covid. 

My wife has been sick since the week before Christmas.  I think she is just about over it now after multiple trips to the ER so I hear ya on the family sickness. 

I love the picture of all the kids at the table in the trailer!


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Post by: Too Stroked on January 06, 2023, 07:15:40 PM
Glad to see and hear that you're alive and kicking. I hope things get back to normal soon!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 10, 2023, 09:34:25 PM
It was nice to just get out and the “tacos in a bag” were a huge hit, lol.

I took Monday off, so I hope to get out by myself and do a little riding. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 16, 2023, 08:26:49 PM
I was able to get the kids out yesterday for a little bit, then I headed out by myself to a different place to get some riding in today. Some of todays trails were a legitimate challenge. Steep, rutted out hills caused some white knuckles. I wish I hadn’t forgotten the Drone, coulda got some nice footage.

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Post by: Too Stroked on January 17, 2023, 06:52:29 AM
You're going to need a bigger helmet to contain that smile!
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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 17, 2023, 06:07:26 PM
She LOVES the quad. It’s the good ‘ol “Faster, faster, FASTER!”


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Post by: Too Stroked on January 19, 2023, 07:07:31 AM
She LOVES the quad. It’s the good ‘ol “Faster, faster, FASTER!”


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I wonder where she gets that from?  :funny:
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Post by: Kitzy on January 19, 2023, 08:48:42 AM
She LOVES the quad. It’s the good ‘ol “Faster, faster, FASTER!”


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I wonder where she gets that from?  :funny:
Is this a set up for an inappropriate joke?  I’m not known in my inner circle of daily acquaintances to be able to resist such things.  That’s the exact phrase that sometimes creates kids. 


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Post by: Blown F-150 on January 19, 2023, 08:59:23 AM
bahahaha, you're hilarious! No, she just likes to go really fast on the quad or sled. You should have seen the scowl my Wife was giving me as we were cutting donuts in the parking lot  :redneck:
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Post by: Kitzy on January 19, 2023, 10:25:45 AM
bahahaha, you're hilarious! No, she just likes to go really fast on the quad or sled. You should have seen the scowl my Wife was giving me as we were cutting donuts in the parking lot  :redneck:
Have you ever seen the Roman Atwood prank he pulls on his wife using their son and a quad?

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Title: Re: Cargo Trailer Spruce Up
Post by: Blown F-150 on January 19, 2023, 10:05:34 PM
That would end in a divorce for me, hahahaha


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