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Title: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 03, 2021, 09:01:49 PM
We’ve been getting hammered lately with a couple potential storms on the way. However, this is really just an excuse to post pics of the pups. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 03, 2021, 09:05:15 PM
A couple of the area and my attempt at leaving which didn’t go well.

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And the joys of big storms in the city.

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 03, 2021, 10:09:07 PM
Looks like fun! I am happy that I don't do snow removal anymore though.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 03, 2021, 10:25:51 PM
holy crap, those are awesome photos Mike....seriously man, you got this figured out dude.

I went to school for photography, but your composition and framing are spot on.   

It was 72 degrees here today.....almost normal...cold front taking our 1 day of almost normal to shit...next week, snow.   

Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 04, 2021, 09:46:19 AM
I appreciate that, Jason.  It’s fun to me.  I probably annoy Cassie and the dogs.  Haha. Here’s a few from just days before the storm. It was relatively warm prior to all of this.

By the way, if you have a dog that is good with fetch, these frisbees are awesome.  They love them.  But chewers will chew and they don’t last long. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 04, 2021, 04:53:41 PM
We’ve been getting hammered lately with a couple potential storms on the way. However, this is really just an excuse to post pics of the pups. 

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Mike, Where can I get a coat like the one on your white doggie?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 04, 2021, 05:08:09 PM
We’ve been getting hammered lately with a couple potential storms on the way. However, this is really just an excuse to post pics of the pups. 

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Mike, Where can I get a coat like the one on your white doggie?
We got it from Chewy.  Basically where we get everything from for the dogs.  They have the best prices and ship really fast.  Bowie is probably 65lbs give or take and he’s in a size large with a little bit of room to spare.  It’s super easy to put on and he actually seems to like it.  There are a lot of other dog jackets out there and a million on chewy but this is the one we have for Bowie.

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 05, 2021, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks Mike! I'm going to order one for Herbie right now.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 05, 2021, 06:37:25 PM
Thanks Mike! I'm going to order one for Herbie right now.  :cheers:
Don’t forget the toys and treats.  Every dog needs an abundance of toys and treats.  Like I said above, my dogs LOVE those Hyper Pet frisbees.  These are our go to toys and treats.  Kong squeaky balls are cheap and durable.  That ChuckIt! Ball with the rope is a lot of fun and every dog needs a stuffed animal. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 05, 2021, 07:49:46 PM
Thanks Mike! I'm going to order one for Herbie right now.  :cheers:
Don’t forget the toys and treats.  Every dog needs an abundance of toys and treats.  Like I said above, my dogs LOVE those Hyper Pet frisbees.  These are our go to toys and treats.  Kong squeaky balls are cheap and durable.  That ChuckIt! Ball with the rope is a lot of fun and every dog needs a stuffed animal. 

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Well, I just tried to order the coat. No dice. They only have one size and it's not his. As for the toys, he has a ton already. (Yea, he's spoiled rotten.) In fact he has that very ball and rope toy. He's actually very gentle with his toys and keeps them all placed around his bed.  His favorite toy is a squeaky / furry hedgehog that he carries around the house. Thanks for the suggestions!
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 05, 2021, 08:09:24 PM
Thanks Mike! I'm going to order one for Herbie right now.  :cheers:
Don’t forget the toys and treats.  Every dog needs an abundance of toys and treats.  Like I said above, my dogs LOVE those Hyper Pet frisbees.  These are our go to toys and treats.  Kong squeaky balls are cheap and durable.  That ChuckIt! Ball with the rope is a lot of fun and every dog needs a stuffed animal. 

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Well, I just tried to order the coat. No dice. They only have one size and it's not his. As for the toys, he has a ton already. (Yea, he's spoiled rotten.) In fact he has that very ball and rope toy. He's actually very gentle with his toys and keeps them all placed around his bed.  His favorite toy is a squeaky / furry hedgehog that he carries around the house. Thanks for the suggestions!
Haha.  Tom, he didn’t happen to get those very same toys at the end of November from Chewy delivered specifically to Herbie, did he?


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 06, 2021, 07:32:17 AM
Yes he did. Was that you?????? We never figured out who sent them.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 06, 2021, 07:42:16 AM
Yes he did. Was that you?????? We never figured out who sent them.
It was.  Haha.  I wanted it to be anonymous to mess with you but then I started wondering if it ever got there because truth be told, I wasn’t even sure the address was right.  Getting the address without asking you was a task in its own.  I tried asking Jason but he didn’t have it either.  You don’t want to know how I ended up getting it.  Haha. But that’s why I posted up those specific pictures up there.  It was to see your reaction.  And for what it’s worth, I fully expected all of them to be destroyed by now if not by the first week already.  My big boy Opie destroys anything we give him within a half hour of left unsupervised. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 06, 2021, 10:27:18 AM
We never knew who sent that stuff and always wondered. He still has everything you sent because he takes great care of his toys. Thank you so much! I'll have to return the favor someday! Now to start plotting how I'm going to do that ...
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 06, 2021, 10:44:01 AM
We never knew who sent that stuff and always wondered. He still has everything you sent because he takes great care of his toys. Thank you so much! I'll have to return the favor someday! Now to start plotting how I'm going to do that ...
I was excited to be able to do it.  I’m glad to know it did actually make it there.  I always wondered about that.  Especially because during the period of time I sent it, all of our chewy packages were ending up everywhere but our house.  I was just hoping if it ended up at a neighbors house they would recognize the last name.  Haha.  It’s funny because I didn’t want credit for it, I just wanted it to be a mysterious sort of surprise package, so after I completed the order I panicked and called chewy to make sure my name wasn’t on anything in the box.  I think the lady thought I was a little bit on the special side. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 06, 2021, 12:18:57 PM
Lol.....fun thread

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 14, 2021, 10:18:23 PM
Tom, I had a mysterious Chewy package show up on Friday.  You know anything about that? 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 15, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
Tom, I had a mysterious Chewy package show up on Friday.  You know anything about that? 


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I have absolutely no idea who would have sent that.  :funny:

Let me check with Herbie.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 15, 2021, 06:53:41 PM
Tom, I had a mysterious Chewy package show up on Friday.  You know anything about that? 


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I have absolutely no idea who would have sent that.  :funny:

Let me check with Herbie.
Tom, you shouldn’t have but thank you.  So it was funny.  It got delivered to the neighbors house.  Go figure.  My neighbor brought it over while I was outside and talked to me for about an hour.  I never questioned the box because I figured Cassie ordered something.  Took it in and Cassie didnt question it at first because she thought I ordered something.  We eventually just looked at each other a little confused.  I opened it up and was very confused.  It took me a second to put two and two together. 

That undercoat brush... I opened it and my dogs looked frightened of it.  I used it for a second to see what they would do and they both started following me around begging me to keep brushing them.  The chew toys that look like sticks, I’ve had them before and the dogs loved them.  Cassie would get mad because they would make a mess and I would always laugh but they chewed them down to nothing practically.  I never bought them again because I didn’t want to get bitched at so I’m glad you did it!  Haha


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 15, 2021, 09:02:43 PM
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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 16, 2021, 03:48:27 PM
Tom, I had a mysterious Chewy package show up on Friday.  You know anything about that? 


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I have absolutely no idea who would have sent that.  :funny:

Let me check with Herbie.
Tom, you shouldn’t have but thank you.  So it was funny.  It got delivered to the neighbors house.  Go figure.  My neighbor brought it over while I was outside and talked to me for about an hour.  I never questioned the box because I figured Cassie ordered something.  Took it in and Cassie didnt question it at first because she thought I ordered something.  We eventually just looked at each other a little confused.  I opened it up and was very confused.  It took me a second to put two and two together. 

That undercoat brush... I opened it and my dogs looked frightened of it.  I used it for a second to see what they would do and they both started following me around begging me to keep brushing them.  The chew toys that look like sticks, I’ve had them before and the dogs loved them.  Cassie would get mad because they would make a mess and I would always laugh but they chewed them down to nothing practically.  I never bought them again because I didn’t want to get bitched at so I’m glad you did it!  Haha


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Mike,

Stella, Herbie and I are glad we were able to return the favor. I know how much your dogs mean to you and we were hoping you liked everything. Herbie was a little nervous when I fist used that comb / brush on him, but now he loves it. It's the only thing I've found (so far) that cuts down on the dog hair in the truck. Speaking of which, can you believe I now allow dog hair in my truck?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 20, 2021, 07:38:42 PM
Tom, my truck is not nearly as maintained like it used to be when it came to being clean.  The dirt road took its toll on me and wore me down.  That’s where it all started and not the inside is muddy half the time and theirs dog drool on all the windows. 

I have a whole mess of other problems with the truck right now.  It has not been the greatest week.  If I had hair, I’d be pulling it out right now. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 21, 2021, 06:40:07 AM
Tom, my truck is not nearly as maintained like it used to be when it came to being clean.  The dirt road took its toll on me and wore me down.  That’s where it all started and not the inside is muddy half the time and theirs dog drool on all the windows. 

I have a whole mess of other problems with the truck right now.  It has not been the greatest week.  If I had hair, I’d be pulling it out right now. 


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Ugh. Sorry to hear that. Anything I can help with? I have hair if you want me to pull it out.  :om:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Tom, my truck is not nearly as maintained like it used to be when it came to being clean.  The dirt road took its toll on me and wore me down.  That’s where it all started and not the inside is muddy half the time and theirs dog drool on all the windows. 

I have a whole mess of other problems with the truck right now.  It has not been the greatest week.  If I had hair, I’d be pulling it out right now. 


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Ugh. Sorry to hear that. Anything I can help with? I have hair if you want me to pull it out.  :om:
I have beard hair I can pull out so I guess for now I’m good. 

I had been stressing myself out beyond belief for weeks before our Tennessee trip and for whatever reason I am suffering from a lot of anxiety for quite some time now.  It was the First time pulling the camper.  Over 10 hour drive away and we kept getting dumped on.  My truck is awful in the snow by itself and I had no idea if I would even get it out of the driveway with the camper.  I did.  The drive down was long.  It ended up being 13 hours of driving because the first 9 hours were in freezing rain.  We got there alright but I had little sleep the night before and all that driving and gloomy weather wore me out.  We had just pulled in to our spot and are reacquainting with Cassie’s family we haven’t seen in two years.  Made a huge bonehead mistake and dropped the camper on my bed.  Camper is fine, bed is toast.  Finished crying and setting up.  Next morning, check engine light.  Half way through the week we pull out of camp and go to their house and live out of the camper there.  Truck seems under powered while pulling the camper there and not making enough boost.  Put the code reader on it, EGT sensor is the culprit.  Dealership had one for $50.  Soak it over night in penetrating fluid and get after it the next day.  Someone had previously completely rounded the sensor nut.  Can’t budge it and end up breaking it.  Has to be drilled out so either remove the bed for access or remove the exhaust.  Exhaust bolts are always fun.  OR, in the 11th hour, drill a hole right next to the stuck one and weld a nut on to serve as a new bung.  Presto, half hour later truck is running right.  Pulled great coming home.  However, can’t get it up my driveway.  With so much snow and the way it’s plowed, my truck currently sits stuck half way up.  I can’t get it around the turn.  No idea what I’m going to do with that yet. For a while now I’ve smelled subtle hints of tranny fluid.  At first I thought it was antifreeze but it’s tranny.  It was really bad though while attempting 50 times to get the camper up my driveway.  So now I have that t ideal with also.  I also need to find a company that will tune my truck to delete the emissions stuff because those EGTs are next to impossible to change and will leave you disabled on the side of the road.  The truck doesn’t care where you are or what you’re towing. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
Holy crap Mike, that is a horrible series of events.

Get some chains for your outer rear tires and you make it to the house.

The emissions stuff is getting harder, but I thought Manufacturers had to improve the warranty on those systems to help.


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Title: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 01:00:11 PM
Holy crap Mike, that is a horrible series of events.

Get some chains for your outer rear tires and you make it to the house.

The emissions stuff is getting harder, but I thought Manufacturers had to improve the warranty on those systems to help.


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I was so tired the evening we got to camp. Running on very little sleep.  The sun had set and it was just about dark while we starting setting up.  We were chatting it up with her family we hadn’t seen in a long time while we went about our business.  It was a perfect storm of events for my brain to shut down at the worst possible time.  I’m so mad at myself and I have no one and nothing to blame. 

I just came in from getting the trailer parked.  That’s a weight off of my shoulders.  I thought I was going to have to go drop it in a parking lot somewhere for a month or so until we melted.  Chains wouldn’t have helped.  The heavy camper on a gravel incline and a turn was the biggest problem.  The snow being plowed multiple times left embankments that I kept getting hung up on and buried in.  I had to hand shovel some of the inside of the turn to get the camper tighter because the truck kept swinging to the outside of the turn and getting stuck and sliding. 

The warranty has been extended on Fords for the EGT sensors.  That sounds good on paper but it doesn’t help when you’re on the side of the road with a trailer in tow and it screws up whatever it is you got going on.  Some guys have reported getting a message telling them to pull over immediately and then the truck shuts off before they have time.  I was lucky that I could still drive but what happens if I’m half way to my campsite 10 hours away and my truck shuts off and strands me and the camper,  I’d rather get rid of all the crap.  I don’t NEED the extra power but I do need the reliability. 

Also, now that I’m unhooked, off the grade of the driveway and parked on level ground in the garage, I was able to Atleast check the tranny fluid.  It looks good and red and is within operating levels.  I’ve smelled this before (not to this extent) and have looked in the garage for oil marks but I’ve never seen any.  If it’s leaking, I’m not sure where.  I’m going to have to get under and feel around. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 21, 2021, 02:48:30 PM
First of all, I'm glad you got it unstuck. Second, I'd be changing the tranny fluid pretty quick. Now about that "destroyed" bed? Not being a 5th wheeler, how does one do that?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
First of all, I'm glad you got it unstuck. Second, I'd be changing the tranny fluid pretty quick. Now about that "destroyed" bed? Not being a 5th wheeler, how does one do that?
Well most people dont do a tug test after hooking up so the jaws of the hitch that go around the pin on the camper aren’t properly locked closed and when you go to pull out, the camper comes out of the hitch, slides off the top of the hitch plate and crashes on to the bed rails.  Now, on to the part I don’t want to talk about.  So what I did was just reached over and yanked open the handle for the jaws that hold the pin in the hitch before lowering the landing gear.  With nothing stopping the camper from moving, it pushed itself out of the hitch.  Had I put the landing gear down like I was supposed to there wouldn’t be a problem. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2021, 05:29:14 PM
Honest mistake when you’re tired and distracted Bud. It sucks big time, but don’t beat yourself up about.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on February 21, 2021, 05:43:57 PM
So you're human. We've all made errors at least that ugly in the past - and lived to laugh about it. Glad you're ok!
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2021, 06:02:59 PM
I could remind you about what I did to the wife’s X5...


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 06:15:36 PM
I could remind you about what I did to the wife’s X5...


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Please do. 

Cassie’s aunt who we went to visit is literally the most positive person on the planet.  You would never expect someone who’s been through what their family has been through to be half as positive as they are. I didn’t even have enough time to hang my head in shame.  Literally less than 10 seconds after it happened her exact words (she’s famous for this line) were “It’ll be alright” in her southern accent.  It didn’t help at the time.  At all.  The quieter I got, the more she laughed and told me it’s be alright.  Gotta love it.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2021, 06:24:20 PM
I went on a pizza run (literally could have just walked there).

Backed out of our driveway and directly into a friends POS Ford Focus. His mirror was solid and ran a crease from the tail light to the drivers rear door handle and somehow ended in a dent the size of your face. Also scratch the flare. $8k in damage to the X5. I bought a $40 wrecker mirror for my buddies car and installed it, you would never know, lol.
I’ve given it a little home brew PDR love and a aggressive polish, but not sure if I’ll even fox it proper or just send to auction.

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 06:24:52 PM
Also, in regards to tuning the truck, I’ve read some posts that make me believe companies are still doing the delete tunes but you can’t order them that way from the websites.  You need to call and talk to them.  I hope that’s the case.  I don’t have emissions here so hopefully I can get this done. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 21, 2021, 06:29:32 PM
Call a Canadian company, no EPS jurisdiction up here...


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 06:30:06 PM
I went on a pizza run (literally could have just walked there).

Backed out of our driveway and directly into a friends POS Ford Focus. His mirror was solid and ran a crease from the tail light to the drivers rear door handle and somehow ended in a dent the size of your face. Also scratch the flare. $8k in damage to the X5. I bought a $40 wrecker mirror for my buddies car and installed it, you would never know, lol.
I’ve given it a little home brew PDR love and a aggressive polish, but not sure if I’ll even fox it proper or just send to auction.

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Well crap.  That sucks.  I remember you having damaged the X5 but I don’t recall how you did it.  I don’t think any of my issue can be improved with a buffer.  The guy we stayed with down in Tennessee never fails to spend my money.  He’s the reason I have a side by side and we have a smoker.  He wants me to put a flatbed on it.  Haha. I like flatbeds but I think the bed looks clean and slick and I use the bed sides for stuff.  I’m more inclined right now to leave the insurance company to just repair it.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 06:37:46 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
I guess I should mention that not everything that week sucked.  It was stupid cold out though.  Especially on the mountain.  We got out for two short rides.  I have some video but my GoPro decided to crap out on me for unknown reasons at the best part.  I will try to get to the video sometime this week. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 07:10:04 PM
Part of the reason for the short ride the second time out was that we couldn’t stay warm.  Neither of us has an enclosed cab or even windshields.  The mud was freezing to the machines and our brakes didn’t work.  Haha.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210222/0ddd70cce1a9ad7c9863158b083cf452.jpg)
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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 21, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.   
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 07:38:39 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 21, 2021, 08:44:45 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Man I must be either drunk or sunburned more than I think or what.but I don't know what you are referring too here, when I set EGT;s Exhuast Gas Temps come to mind. 

Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 08:47:16 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Man I must be either drunk or sunburned more than I think or what.but I don't know what you are referring too here, when I set EGT;s Exhuast Gas Temps come to mind. 

Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Haha.  Yes.  This thread took a turn.  Short explanation, I threw a code, it was an EGT failure.  Plug was so stuck in exhaust pipe I had to drill a new hole to replace it while leaving the original in.  If you have the time, add anti seize to yours, carry a spare, a wrench and a code reader before you’re stranded on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck over a 5 minute fix. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 21, 2021, 08:57:10 PM
oh snap ok, does that affect 19's?  If so, do yo have link to that part....and is it worth predrilling and having it ready? 

Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 21, 2021, 09:01:58 PM
oh snap ok, does that affect 19's?  If so, do yo have link to that part....and is it worth predrilling and having it ready?
I imagine it affects any diesel since they all have EGTs.  They are next to impossible to get out.  Since yours isn’t that old I’d recommended finding time to pull them out and apply anti seize.  Ford dealer says they soak them in penetrating fluid for a minimum of three days before even wrenching on them.  I wouldn’t drill in to a super expensive part unless you need to.  I had to weld a nut on to thread the new sensor in.  Not exactly a road side fix.  However unscrewing one and screwing a new one in is very simple.  My part was $52.  Her family member had a code reader at home to tell me what sensor it was.  There are 4, Atleast on my truck.  They’re all the same just located in different places on he exhaust.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Rollingrock on February 21, 2021, 09:17:39 PM
Ok, b/c I am exhausted and sun burned...can you in the next couple of days take a photo of where that sensor is so i can take a look?   I am not sure how long I am going to last tonight.   

Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on February 21, 2021, 11:00:50 PM
I do not have the 2019 6.4 shop manual, but this looks like the years I have

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 22, 2021, 07:57:18 AM
Ok, b/c I am exhausted and sun burned...can you in the next couple of days take a photo of where that sensor is so i can take a look?   I am not sure how long I am going to last tonight.
I can’t find one specific to the new body styles but this is what mine looks like.  It’s the bottom setup. 

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There are 4 of them.  13 and 14 seem to be most common.  Mine was 14. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 22, 2021, 01:13:07 PM
Ok now that I ha e a few minutes...

There are four sensors.  Not sure if they change from year to year.  Most dealerships carry a few in stock. Scares they’re such a problem.  So much so that Ford extended the warranty on them.  That doesn’t exactly give me the warm and fuzzies knowing it’s covered when I’m stranded with trailer in tow.  The Ford dealer I spoke with says they soak in penetrating oil for 3 days before trying to remove.  Dealerships are applying nickel anti seize because of its higher temps.  Copper and silver harden during the hot temps these exhausts see.  1000 - 1200 during regen. 

I’m going to try to delete everything but knowing what I know now I would get under there and remove all of them and coat in permatex nickel anti seize and reinstall.  They make EGT sockets that are 6 point but open to allow you to slide the wire through.  You can install with a standard open 13mm wrench but want a 6 point socket for removal if possible.  If the sensor is bad and you’re replacing it, you can cut the wire and used a regular deep 6 point socket.  You need a code reader to determine the correct sensor.  They are EGT11, EGT12, EGT13 and EGT14.  Basically EGT Bank 1 Sensor 1, Bank1 Sensor 2, etc.  the code reader is also important because should you get shut down and stranded, even if you fix it, unless you clear the code there is a built in fail safe where the truck won’t start for an hour.  So even if you fix it in 5 minutes, you’re a sitting duck for another 55. 

So in short, preventative steps is soak em, pull em, coat them in anti seize and put them back in.  Special sockets will make this easier

If preparing for a failure, buy a spare sensor (all four are the same regardless of location) and keep it in the truck, buy a code reader and keep it with you, keep appropriate tools on hand (13mm deep socket and ratchet, 13mm open wrench, and something to cut the wire to get the socket on... or just get the special sockets and a ratchet.) apply anti seize right then and there or Atleast as soon as you have time to do it at home. 

I can’t imagine the chaos this could cause you should it happen at the wrong time, far away from home. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 22, 2021, 09:43:52 PM
I think I’ll stick with the 7.3 and a F350 if I go for a tow rig, lol.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: GreyMichFX4 on February 24, 2021, 12:08:43 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Mike, my truck isn't stock and I am pretty sure the previous owner deleted it shortly after taking delivery. If the sensor for my Mini-Max fails I'm just going to have them drill another hole in the other exhaust manifold. Plus when the truck is 13 years old and has 281,000 miles on it I doubt it would come out without the help of a torch and even that's a stretch.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 24, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Mike, my truck isn't stock and I am pretty sure the previous owner deleted it shortly after taking delivery. If the sensor for my Mini-Max fails I'm just going to have them drill another hole in the other exhaust manifold. Plus when the truck is 13 years old and has 281,000 miles on it I doubt it would come out without the help of a torch and even that's a stretch.
Yeah.  I figured your truck was a lost cause as far as preventative maintenance.  Jason has a chance to spend some time and possibly save himself a headache down the line.


I crawled under to look at the transmission and the very bottom of the bell housing shows signs of a little moisture but it’s very subtle.  Hard to believe it’s be the cause of the smell.  Reached up too and it seems a bit more noticeable around the vent tube. These transmission run very hot so I’m not entirely surprised.  I was worried at first because I saw 207 degrees unloaded.  Did some digging and they are designed to run around 220-230.  Intact Ford doesn’t even program the fan to turn on until 247 degrees and even then it’s only running at 20%.  At 255 degrees the fan kicks up to 60%.  80% at 261.  It really makes you realize how important it is to run good fluid.  I cleaned up the bell housing good with brake clean so I will check it again after I get it hot again.  For what it’s worth, our Ram 4500s transmissions at work run at 165-168. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 24, 2021, 01:10:19 PM
By the way, Jason, if you read this, when you have time maybe consider pulling out your EGTs and apply high temp anti seize.  Make sure it’s a nickel based anti seize and not copper.  Copper supposedly turns to concrete in high exhaust like temps.  And maybe carry a code reader and a spare EGT or two should you throw a code.  It should have been an easy 5 minute fix. 


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Was this for me?   I haven't been following this thread as much sorry.
Yes.  It was for you.  Nobody else I believe is running a diesel with EGTs.  Maybe Dave but it may be too late for him.  Yours being a 19, you may still be able to get them out.  It’s very much worth it.  I had a mess on my hands and very little time to fix it. 


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Mike, my truck isn't stock and I am pretty sure the previous owner deleted it shortly after taking delivery. If the sensor for my Mini-Max fails I'm just going to have them drill another hole in the other exhaust manifold. Plus when the truck is 13 years old and has 281,000 miles on it I doubt it would come out without the help of a torch and even that's a stretch.
Dave, out of curiosity, what year is your truck and who tuned it?  Any issues?  This crap needs to go.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: GreyMichFX4 on February 24, 2021, 04:09:32 PM
My truck is a 2008 and I have no idea who tuned it but I am pretty sure the dealer deleted it because it's had the head gaskets done by them twice. The only real problem (I am going to regret this  :redneck:) has been the radiator which is a known issue on the 08-10 Super Duty Trucks because the Chassis flexes so much. I will say this much, even with the plow on my truck pushing snow I have only seen a steady 180* trans temp once and that was last year plowing here at work during one of the big storms. Most of the time it hovers somewhere in the 168-175 depending on the ambient temperature and if it's -0* or below I'll see it climb to 185* and then drop to around 170*. For a truck that weighs somewhere in the 11,000 to 12,000 pound range with my chubby ass, the plow,  full 100 gallon transfer tank, and full tank of fuel I am surprised there haven't been more Chassis or Drive Train related issues with the truck.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 24, 2021, 08:55:02 PM
Trying to find a reputable tuner is difficult right now.  Guess I gotta make some calls.  None of these companies even sell the delete pipes anymore.  Canadian companies advertise they can’t ship delete products to US.  I have a friend who claims he can get me what I need but without a reputable name behind them I’m a little uneasy about it. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: GreyMichFX4 on February 24, 2021, 09:25:29 PM
Mike, check out this site.

https://dpfdeleteshop.com/products/egr-delete-ford-powerstroke-diesel-6-7-17-19
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 24, 2021, 09:34:21 PM
Mike, check out this site.

https://dpfdeleteshop.com/products/egr-delete-ford-powerstroke-diesel-6-7-17-19
I was looking at reviews.  It seems sketchy but people have said they got what they ordered.  They have a Caymen Islands address.  Parts seem to show up but tunes have been an issue from the reviews I’ve been reading.  People aren’t getting their tunes and they are horrible at answering emails.  Oh and they’re an email only company.  They claim it’s better that way because they can respond after traditional business hours. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: GreyMichFX4 on February 24, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
Is Innovative still doing tunes?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 25, 2021, 08:10:37 PM
Ship to me and I’ll ship to you no problem


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 25, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
Call Obsessive Compulsive Diesel in Edmonton Canada. If you can talk to Ryan, he knows who I am (built Blue F150).

Order from him and I can pick up and ship to you.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 26, 2021, 08:52:50 AM
Call Obsessive Compulsive Diesel in Edmonton Canada. If you can talk to Ryan, he knows who I am (built Blue F150).

Order from him and I can pick up and ship to you.


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Man, I really appreciate that and will keep it as an option.  I take the truck to the body shop today for an estimate.  Once I get that sorted and figure out this transmission issue I am going to make a few calls and see if any of these companies are still doing it behind the scenes. 

I actually drove the truck 40 minutes away and 40 minutes back yesterday and again, it drives and shifts great.  Parked it and no signs of any leaks.  It had a slight odor but I almost feel like it was coolant again.  It also seemed to be strongest up near the drivers side headlight/grille area.  I can’t find anything wrong.  All fluids look good. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 26, 2021, 02:56:39 PM
Supposed to have an estimate for the truck before the end of today.  New bedsides, new tonneau cover because the rails are bent, and paint and bedliner.  And hopefully the bedsides aren’t on back order like everything else in the world. Hoping to get it in and done before Easter since I am camping again that weekend and need the truck to tow.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: GreyMichFX4 on February 26, 2021, 04:49:19 PM
Holy crap Mike, that is a horrible series of events.

Get some chains for your outer rear tires and you make it to the house.

The emissions stuff is getting harder, but I thought Manufacturers had to improve the warranty on those systems to help.


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I was so tired the evening we got to camp. Running on very little sleep.  The sun had set and it was just about dark while we starting setting up.  We were chatting it up with her family we hadn’t seen in a long time while we went about our business.  It was a perfect storm of events for my brain to shut down at the worst possible time.  I’m so mad at myself and I have no one and nothing to blame. 

I just came in from getting the trailer parked.  That’s a weight off of my shoulders.  I thought I was going to have to go drop it in a parking lot somewhere for a month or so until we melted.  Chains wouldn’t have helped.  The heavy camper on a gravel incline and a turn was the biggest problem.  The snow being plowed multiple times left embankments that I kept getting hung up on and buried in.  I had to hand shovel some of the inside of the turn to get the camper tighter because the truck kept swinging to the outside of the turn and getting stuck and sliding. 

The warranty has been extended on Fords for the EGT sensors.  That sounds good on paper but it doesn’t help when you’re on the side of the road with a trailer in tow and it screws up whatever it is you got going on.  Some guys have reported getting a message telling them to pull over immediately and then the truck shuts off before they have time.  I was lucky that I could still drive but what happens if I’m half way to my campsite 10 hours away and my truck shuts off and strands me and the camper,  I’d rather get rid of all the crap.  I don’t NEED the extra power but I do need the reliability. 

Also, now that I’m unhooked, off the grade of the driveway and parked on level ground in the garage, I was able to Atleast check the tranny fluid.  It looks good and red and is within operating levels.  I’ve smelled this before (not to this extent) and have looked in the garage for oil marks but I’ve never seen any.  If it’s leaking, I’m not sure where.  I’m going to have to get under and feel around. 


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Mike, I don't know how I missed this post but we all do crap like that. I have more than a few stories of crap that's happened here at work over the years. I was personally responsible for a couple that were pretty bad. Like the time I totaled two cars and wasn't driving either of them, backing into a customers van with the loader while I was pushing snow, getting a loader hung up on one of our sheds with a post between the front wheel and loader arm. My personal favorite is we had a guy get both hands stuck under a unit of OBS while sitting on the forklift he also managed to run himself over with his own pickup truck shortly after that.

The one that I really remember but was only around 14 at the time and we still had our Mack R Model. We had two trailers that we ran, the loaded one was pulled by the truck and the empty would be loaded for the next day while the truck was gone. Our driver had come back from his run and went home leaving the guy in the yard to switch trailers. The guy switched trailers like always but forgot one important detail after hooking up to the loaded trailer. He forgot the tug test. He raised the landing gear got into the truck and proceeded to pull out from under the loaded trailer. So now the loaded trailer sat on it's landing gear in the raised position with the trailer sitting at about a 15*-20* angle and our forklift couldn't pick up the front of the trailer and the truck was scheduled to leave at 3am the next morning it was late afternoon when this happened. I don't remember how we got the trailer hooked back up the the semi but I think it involved a wrecker that was big enough to pick up the front of the trailer.

I haven't failed to do a tug test on any fifth wheel trailer after seeing that happen. And I am pretty sure you won't either going forward.

In the words of my Grandfather. You can go to school and learn, or you can learn from the school of hard knocks. Both are expensive, make sure you choose wisely. I have learned from the school of hard knock than I ever did going to school.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 26, 2021, 06:11:24 PM
Holy crap Mike, that is a horrible series of events.

Get some chains for your outer rear tires and you make it to the house.

The emissions stuff is getting harder, but I thought Manufacturers had to improve the warranty on those systems to help.


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I was so tired the evening we got to camp. Running on very little sleep.  The sun had set and it was just about dark while we starting setting up.  We were chatting it up with her family we hadn’t seen in a long time while we went about our business.  It was a perfect storm of events for my brain to shut down at the worst possible time.  I’m so mad at myself and I have no one and nothing to blame. 

I just came in from getting the trailer parked.  That’s a weight off of my shoulders.  I thought I was going to have to go drop it in a parking lot somewhere for a month or so until we melted.  Chains wouldn’t have helped.  The heavy camper on a gravel incline and a turn was the biggest problem.  The snow being plowed multiple times left embankments that I kept getting hung up on and buried in.  I had to hand shovel some of the inside of the turn to get the camper tighter because the truck kept swinging to the outside of the turn and getting stuck and sliding. 

The warranty has been extended on Fords for the EGT sensors.  That sounds good on paper but it doesn’t help when you’re on the side of the road with a trailer in tow and it screws up whatever it is you got going on.  Some guys have reported getting a message telling them to pull over immediately and then the truck shuts off before they have time.  I was lucky that I could still drive but what happens if I’m half way to my campsite 10 hours away and my truck shuts off and strands me and the camper,  I’d rather get rid of all the crap.  I don’t NEED the extra power but I do need the reliability. 

Also, now that I’m unhooked, off the grade of the driveway and parked on level ground in the garage, I was able to Atleast check the tranny fluid.  It looks good and red and is within operating levels.  I’ve smelled this before (not to this extent) and have looked in the garage for oil marks but I’ve never seen any.  If it’s leaking, I’m not sure where.  I’m going to have to get under and feel around. 


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Mike, I don't know how I missed this post but we all do crap like that. I have more than a few stories of crap that's happened here at work over the years. I was personally responsible for a couple that were pretty bad. Like the time I totaled two cars and wasn't driving either of them, backing into a customers van with the loader while I was pushing snow, getting a loader hung up on one of our sheds with a post between the front wheel and loader arm. My personal favorite is we had a guy get both hands stuck under a unit of OBS while sitting on the forklift he also managed to run himself over with his own pickup truck shortly after that.

The one that I really remember but was only around 14 at the time and we still had our Mack R Model. We had two trailers that we ran, the loaded one was pulled by the truck and the empty would be loaded for the next day while the truck was gone. Our driver had come back from his run and went home leaving the guy in the yard to switch trailers. The guy switched trailers like always but forgot one important detail after hooking up to the loaded trailer. He forgot the tug test. He raised the landing gear got into the truck and proceeded to pull out from under the loaded trailer. So now the loaded trailer sat on it's landing gear in the raised position with the trailer sitting at about a 15*-20* angle and our forklift couldn't pick up the front of the trailer and the truck was scheduled to leave at 3am the next morning it was late afternoon when this happened. I don't remember how we got the trailer hooked back up the the semi but I think it involved a wrecker that was big enough to pick up the front of the trailer.

I haven't failed to do a tug test on any fifth wheel trailer after seeing that happen. And I am pretty sure you won't either going forward.

In the words of my Grandfather. You can go to school and learn, or you can learn from the school of hard knocks. Both are expensive, make sure you choose wisely. I have learned from the school of hard knock than I ever did going to school.
Well I haven’t failed to do a tug test yet.  I seem to be good at hooking up.  Unhooking was my issue.  Step one should not be rip open the latch on the fifth wheel.  And even though I know that, I did it anyway.  So I was lucky though because I had JUST enough reach left in the landing gear to get it high enough to hook back up.  When I say just high enough, it took two attempts because I had to shove the truck under the camper it was so tight.  But yeah, lesson learned.  Or lesson reinforced since I already knew not to do what I did. 

It’s funny how hearing how other people F’d up helps you feel a little better. I said to someone today that I wish it was Cassie that messed up my truck.  Haha. I wouldn’t even have yelled at her.  I would just say things happen and don’t worry about it.  We’ll get it fixed.  But I can’t bring myself to say the same thing to myself.  I’m so mad at myself for it.  I can’t stand looking at the truck.  I haven’t even taken any pictures of the damage. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on February 26, 2021, 06:12:05 PM
Estimate was $6,102.25. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on February 26, 2021, 07:56:55 PM
Not bad


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 04, 2021, 09:49:31 AM
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I’m not sure he knows that he’s not a human.  This is how he cruises around with me every time.  I love this dog. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 10, 2021, 07:20:18 PM
I dropped the truck off at the body shop yesterday morning.  Surprisingly they called me today with an update.  Basically the bed and all of the moldings and fenders are off.  The damage to the inside panels of the bed was worse than expected but doesn’t change anything.  It’s still fixable.  Fender hardware was all rusted and needs to be replaced so they had to order that.  So after two days of them having it it’s on schedule.  He reiterated to me that he knows I’m on a time crunch so I’m glad he’s not dismissing that even if it is just for show.  And they’re still waiting on the pinstriping.  That is the least of my concern. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 10, 2021, 07:29:13 PM
And I guess I will post a couple pics.  I didn’t even take any until I dropped it off because of how disgusted I’ve been by it but I figured it’s all part of my story and I might as well. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 10, 2021, 08:26:31 PM
I was expecting worse.

Any damage to the trailer?


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 10, 2021, 09:00:28 PM
I was expecting worse.

Any damage to the trailer?


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Nope.  None that I can tell.  I’ll be honest I haven’t inspected it for scratches.  Only structural. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on March 11, 2021, 04:14:18 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to just replace the whole bed? Seems to me that brand new takeoff dually beds are pretty easy to come by.
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 11, 2021, 05:00:25 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to just replace the whole bed? Seems to me that brand new takeoff dually beds are pretty easy to come by.
Especially in white.  I think the problem is that it’s a King Ranch so the bottom half is Caribou while the top is white.  So unless you found that bed you would have to paint it anyway.  I assume it’s cheaper to buy the sides from Ford and have them nearer to paint than it is to purchase an entire bed that will need to be prepped anyway. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 11, 2021, 11:19:20 PM
Nope.  None that I can tell.  I’ll be honest I haven’t inspected it for scratches.  Only structural. [/quote]

That is good news. 
I was worried that you had structural damage at that 90* turn in the trailer.

Did the insurance company cover having that checked or did you have to pay out of pocket for it.
Title: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 12, 2021, 05:57:19 PM
Just looked it over myself.  It’s solid.  I looked at the underneath of near camper the king pin.  Where it 90s down to the landing gear.  Nothing noticeable.  I’ve been up on the roof since and I haven’t found any issues.  I guess time will tell if anything isn’t showing yet.  If you think about how far it fell, it’s only a few inches before it makes contacted without the bed and then the suspension compressed and it slows to a stop, relative to if there was no suspension.  Most people that drop their camper so it because they failed to do a tug test and they’re driving forward when it falls, also taking out the tailgate. 

I think another reason for not swapping complete beds besides the paint is the truck came equipped with the 5th wheel puck system installed from the factory. 

They called again with another update.  It’s going well so far.  The new bed sides are being welded on today and it should go in to paint on Monday.

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 14, 2021, 09:31:33 AM

They called again with another update.  It’s going well so far.  The new bed sides are being welded on today and it should go in to paint on Monday.

They are making nice progress with it, you should have it back by end of week at this rate.

Has it been a problem not having the truck for work last week and this coming week ?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 14, 2021, 09:48:26 AM

They called again with another update.  It’s going well so far.  The new bed sides are being welded on today and it should go in to paint on Monday.

They are making nice progress with it, you should have it back by end of week at this rate.

Has it been a problem not having the truck for work last week and this coming week ?
No.  I am using a work truck and I’m not back to work yet.  I did work two days this week but we aren’t officially back for the season. Also Cassie is training for a new position within her company so they gave her a company vehicle to commute with so her car is sitting at home if so need it for anything.

I think it will slow down once they get in to the paint.  Prep work and drying time.  And then the little things that don’t take long necessarily but have an order to follow like bed liner, tonneau cover, bed rail caps, pin striping, etc. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 16, 2021, 11:19:38 AM
I get updates on tuesdays and thursdays.  Just got off the phone and he said it’s in paint.  Pinstriping is still on back order.  Whatever.  More concerning is the mounting hardware for the fenders is also on back order until June.  They have 18 out of the 24 pieces they need.  So waiting on 6.  Apparently they have Ford checking other dealerships everywhere trying to source them.  I asked if this was going to be a problem and he seemed concerned and in the same breath said the guys doing the work didnt seem concerned.  Seems to be ahead of schedule otherwise.


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Title: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 18, 2021, 09:16:00 AM
They were able to get all of the hardware for the dual lay fenders.  It’s back together and the truck was dropped off at the shop to have the bed lined. It had the factory bed liner which isn’t an after sale option and the shop can’t blend it to look right so the entire bed is being redone.  Fine by me.  Especially since I know this shop and they do awesome work.  They have their own proprietary mix they use and I really like it.  Only downside is the local Line-X place ran out of product so they are getting everyone’s business and are back logged.  It’s currently officially scheduled for NEXT Friday.  Still way ahead of schedule but supposedly it’s been offered up as overtime to be done after hours to any of the employees that want the overtime so it’s possible it gets done early.  Pin stripes still aren’t in.  After the bed liner is should just be a matter of the plastic bed rail caps and the tonneau cover being installed. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 18, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
Sounds like you'll be able to drive it when you need it!

So when are you guys moving to Tennessee?  :nana:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 18, 2021, 01:59:03 PM
Sounds like you'll be able to drive it when you need it!

So when are you guys moving to Tennessee?  :nana:
I love Tennessee.  If it wasn’t for my parents and if I could make similar money, I would consider it.  I love a little over a half hour from my parents now and my mom thinks it’s too far to visit.  I think she’s only been to my house maybe 3 times in the last four years, since we moved in.  Cassie also has a niece and nephew she wouldn’t want to be too far from.  Coincidentally she wouldn’t mind moving away from her parents at all.  Haha.  I know you were kidding but it’s crossed my mind quite a bit. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 20, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
I drove past the bed lining shop to see if my truck was parked outside waiting it’s turn.  I wanted to get out and look at it but it was parked inside one of the garages.  The bay door was open but it was pretty far in so I just pulled out.  Hopefully that’s a sign that it’s getting ready to be worked on. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 20, 2021, 05:23:32 PM
Stalker! Lol.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 20, 2021, 06:41:22 PM
Stalker! Lol.


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I apologize for nothing!  Haha


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 23, 2021, 07:16:21 PM
Shop called today with my Tuesday update.  Apparently the truck is done at the bed liner shop and was being picked up today.  The pin stripe actually came in.  The truck should be finished and ready for pick up tomorrow afternoon. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 23, 2021, 08:09:01 PM
Great news!


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 24, 2021, 06:29:53 PM
They did finish it up today.  I didn’t go get it though.  It’s kind of a pain in the ass because the shop isn’t near my house or my work and I have a work truck I’m using now so trying to play musical chairs with trucks wasn’t something I felt like dealing with this afternoon in the pouring rain.  The shop is on my coworkers way home so after our job tomorrow I’m going to have him drop me off that way my work truck can stay at work and I don’t have to figure out a way to get it back there.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on March 24, 2021, 08:02:34 PM
Yipee!  :clap:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 25, 2021, 11:55:43 AM
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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 25, 2021, 06:09:37 PM
Picked up the truck today.  Looked great.  Got in and felt like home.  Me and Cassie are looking at it in the garage and there’s a gap in the fender where it meets the bed.  I give it a little push to see if it moves, damn thing feels like it’s about to fall off.  Every bolt was loose and one isn’t even there. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on March 25, 2021, 06:16:02 PM
Holy crap Batman! I'd be talking to the body shop about that little oopsie. No excuse for that.  :dope:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 25, 2021, 06:31:16 PM
I obviously tightened them all up, minus the one that’s not there.  Otherwise the truck looks good.  The tonneau was replaced with and OEM “Ford” tonneau.  It’s ok.  It mounts on top of the bed rails opposed to the inside of it.  It makes it look a little weird.  More like an add on rather than integrated in to the truck.  It’s fine though.  The bed liner is very nice.  No complaints there.  The paint looks pretty good but I won’t be surprised if I find flaws later.  The work is guaranteed for life.

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 25, 2021, 06:32:44 PM
Holy crap Batman! I'd be talking to the body shop about that little oopsie. No excuse for that.  :dope:
That was the whole reason for the videos and I took some pictures of the bolts as well.  I will contact the guy I’ve been dealing with tomorrow. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 25, 2021, 07:11:19 PM
Glad you got it back!  That fender is more than just a little oppsie. Someone probably got them finger tight and then went for a coffee.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 25, 2021, 07:21:38 PM
Glad you got it back!  That fender is more than just a little oppsie. Someone probably got them finger tight and then went for a coffee.


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I’m mostly curious what happened to the missing one.  Did it fall out because it wasn’t tight or was it never put it?  I’ll never now.

I do t think I mentioned, it ended up being $2,000 more than the estimate.  Grand total $8,035.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 25, 2021, 07:33:32 PM
Does surprise my honestly.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 25, 2021, 09:00:37 PM
Glad you got it back. 
The bolts, I would agree it was coffee break time and write it off as don't use that shop again ( don't reference them ).
- The missing one rattled off on the way home.

All in all, things turned out pretty good  :clap:
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 26, 2021, 08:32:07 AM
Glad you got it back. 
The bolts, I would agree it was coffee break time and write it off as don't use that shop again ( don't reference them ).
- The missing one rattled off on the way home.

All in all, things turned out pretty good  :clap:
I do feel the bolt rattled out but it wouldn’t surprise me if they lost one and just skipped it to get the truck out of the shop.

I am impressed the truck was done over a week early.  Their communication was excellent.  The welds and paint appear to be well done and all of the work is guaranteed for life.  If there is anything I dont like, I can take it back.  I don’t feel like one employee failing to do his job correctly, likely honest reasons, should warrant bad reviews or not recommending them.  It was an overall good experience.  I know I’ve had slip ups and made mistakes at my job that resulted in less than acceptable work and I would hate for someone not to recommend us based on something I missed.  I think it will come down to how they respond to the situation, attitude and willingness to make it right, even though it’s already taken care of but I know I would appreciate a customer of ours giving us the same opportunity. 

That said, burn me twice...


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 29, 2021, 06:31:01 PM
Ok so I need to know what you guys think.  I glanced out of the side mirror at the truck today after hitting a rough spot of highway, which isn’t the point, but something caught my eye.  How much would this bother you?  Is it worth making a big deal about and having the truck be down?  I can’t help but think it’s almost like starting over to fix it.  The passenger side bed side tapers inward right before it reaches the cab.  Looking directly from the side it looks perfect.  Looking down the side from the front is pretty noticeable and from the back is noticeable when comparing it to the other side. 

Drivers side
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Drivers Side (it looks strange in this picture but it’s an illusion created by the gap between the bed and cab)
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Passenger side. 
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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 29, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
Do you have another of the same year to compare ?

I don't know if that is welded wrong or just not installed on the truck correctly.

I would guess they had the bed off when they welded them on, and did it correctly. 

I don't know how the bed mounts but I would think there is a bit of room to adjust it ????
- I only have supposition and conjecture

 
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 29, 2021, 10:15:14 PM
My honest opinion is they did it wrong. Probably cut too much of the originals at the front plate and tried to make it work.

It’s really hard to tell by the pics, but looks like the passenger side is worse and that would drive me nuts. If they could at least shift the bed over and have both side even, it might make me feel a little bit better.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 30, 2021, 09:16:49 AM
My honest opinion is they did it wrong. Probably cut too much of the originals at the front plate and tried to make it work.

It’s really hard to tell by the pics, but looks like the passenger side is worse and that would drive me nuts. If they could at least shift the bed over and have both side even, it might make me feel a little bit better.


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Do you have another of the same year to compare ?

I don't know if that is welded wrong or just not installed on the truck correctly.

I would guess they had the bed off when they welded them on, and did it correctly. 

I don't know how the bed mounts but I would think there is a bit of room to adjust it ????
- I only have supposition and conjecture


The passenger side is much worse.  The drivers side is just about perfect when looking at it in person.  Definitely not something I’m going to concern myself with.  The passenger side is what I’m torn on.  If it comes down to cutting it off and fixing it, it’ll be a repaint, more waiting on pinstripes.  More down time with my truck.  If you tried to center the bed it would just make them both off.  I’d be really curious to see what one looks like from the factory. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 30, 2021, 11:30:51 AM
They are often off from the factory, most people just don't notice. I moved and centered the bed on my truck a long time ago. Had to move the bumper too (Stock one at the time)
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on March 30, 2021, 06:37:23 PM
Personally, that would bother me. Especially since every time you look in the mirror, you see the mis-alignment. I'd also agree that the real fix probably involves cutting, welding and paint - unfortunately. Are you going to take it back and show the shop that did it?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 30, 2021, 06:45:13 PM
Personally, that would bother me. Especially since every time you look in the mirror, you see the mis-alignment. I'd also agree that the real fix probably involves cutting, welding and paint - unfortunately. Are you going to take it back and show the shop that did it?
Whatever I decide, they will Atleast know of the situation.  Like I said, the guy I dealt with was fantastic.  However he is not the one doing the work.  I feel I need to atleast inform him of the quality of work that I experience.  I may never know if anything comes of it but I know if any of my guys messed something up at work, I would want to know and have the chance to make it right or discipline as necessary.  I’m just not sure if I want to go through the process of dropping the truck off for who knows how long and having to play musical trucks. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on March 30, 2021, 07:41:14 PM
Whatever you do, I hope it all works out.

Getting back to the original subject of this thread, I just got a Winter Storm Advisory on my phone for us on Thursday. It says we might get up to 7" of snow. You predicted to get anything?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 30, 2021, 08:23:10 PM
Whatever you do, I hope it all works out.

Getting back to the original subject of this thread, I just got a Winter Storm Advisory on my phone for us on Thursday. It says we might get up to 7" of snow. You predicted to get anything?
A couple inches by Thursday morning. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: sscully on March 30, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
Getting back to the original subject of this thread, I just got a Winter Storm Advisory on my phone for us on Thursday. It says we might get up to 7" of snow. You predicted to get anything?

Crap that is just miserable news.  Chicago is slated to be partly cloudy and 39* THUR.
- today was 70*

 Are you sure it is not an advance april's fool joke ?
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on March 30, 2021, 08:51:28 PM
Sounds like you guys are getting what we just had. Went from high 50’s to the teens a couple days ago. Warming back up now at least.


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on March 31, 2021, 05:59:47 AM
Sorry guys, the weather is my fault.  I’m going camping Friday.  I fully expect every time I go camping Mother Nature is going to hit me with one of these little gifts. 


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on April 02, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Hey, I made it and didn’t destroy my truck.  Have a good Easter weekend everyone!

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on April 02, 2021, 05:50:22 PM
Good looking rig! Enjoy yourself!
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on April 02, 2021, 06:58:05 PM
Enjoy!


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on April 19, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
We officially started work last week.  Of course so ended up missing the first day with a funeral but I feel like it all worked out in the end as far as this little story I’m about to tell.  Our first job was in Baltimore Maryland.  I missed the first day which set us back but also is the reason I was at a particular section of the job on my first day.  Halfway through the day I hear a truck hit the brakes and honk his horn.  I look up to see him almost hit a dog.  This dog is a splitting image of my Opie.  I watch the dog for a minute.  No color or leash and no one around walking her.  He almost gets hit again so I call her over and she reluctantly came crossed over to me.  I coaxed her in to my work truck and called animal control.  They said they can put me on a waiting list to be picked up.  So that convo went like this.

AC - we can put you on the waiting list for pick up.

Me - well how long will that be?

AC - maybe between 3 and 4 or possibly later in the afternoon

Me - I’m doing contruction and she is in my truck right now.  What do I do if I have to leave and you haven’t come yet?

AC - if you have to go, you can just let her back out and leave.

Me - after a long silence I repeated what they said in the form of a question

AC - yeah just let her back out in the street.  That’s the best thing to do.

I was dumb founded.  Said put me on the waiting list.  I hung up and told my coworker, I said here’s the deal, if they don’t get here. Wrote we leave, she’s going with us and I will bring her back tomorrow or we are delivering her to the shelter ourselves.  She was well cared for.  Very recent nail clipping and plenty fed.  One of the sweetest dogs I’ve ever met. 

Needless to say they got there pretty quick.  No chip.  No way to tell who she belonged to.  They took my info and took her away.  After three days she wasn’t claimed by anyone who might be missing her so the shelter took ownership.  She is available for adoption as soon as she is fixed.  Her surgery was this morning.  I talked my parents in to taking her and my sister is going to pick her up tomorrow when they open.  Unfortunately my work in Baltimore is over and I’m switching to very long nights and won’t have time to make the 5 hour round trip to get her.  And so can’t take her because of having two males.   It my parents just had a 15 year old dog put down and they now have a lonely pup who needs a friend. 

Here are a few pics.  In my effort to guilt trip everyone in my family I made a little collage of her and my Opie to hit them right in the feels!  It worked. 

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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Too Stroked on April 19, 2021, 05:08:18 PM
Sweet looking little girl!
Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Blown F-150 on April 19, 2021, 05:32:37 PM
Glad you came across her!


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Title: Re: Snow storm
Post by: Kitzy on May 02, 2021, 03:21:05 PM
So I did manage to talk my parents in to taking her in.  They had two elderly dogs that had to be put down months apart, leaving the youngest one without his best buddy.  I wasn’t able to go get her because of working nights they would only hold her for one extra day after she was officially available for adoption, which they wouldn’t do until she was fixed first.  My sister volunteered to make the 6 hour round trip to get her, being the first in line on her first day of availability.  She was able to successfully adopt her and she now lives with my parents and Her new brother Colby.  She is a HANDFUL!  Sweetest dog but just a ball of energy like I’ve never seen.  I think I dodged a bullet here!  Haha.  It’s their problem now.  She walks off with everything you set down if you’re not paying attention.  She took my dads drill while he was working on something.  Very cool dog though.  My mom named her Sasha for what it’s worth. 


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