Which 7424xp starter package?

[BigRed150]

 For a noob like me that probably won't get any more agressive cut than 105 at this point, which start package would you recommend

This one
http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-pad-kit.html

 or this one?

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-pad-kit.html

The second one is what I'm leaning towards

Also would you risk buying a 1st gen, pretty much 1st run or wait. I know 1st runs can have some problems sometimes..



 Jeff

[Rockpick]

First... M105 can be SUPER aggressive.  Let's not forget that it's a COMPOUND.  You can EASILY screw up a paint job -- even by hand -- with M105 as it's a non-diminishing product.  In short, if you're rubbing it on the paint, it's working -- be it by mechanical or elbow grease methods.

At the same time though, it can be a pretty darn good finishing product too -- it's just all in the amount of cut that you let the product accomplish.  Again, if it's wet and your pad is spinning or your elbow grease is flowing; it's cutting.  ;)

As for the kits... I've never been much on Auto Geek but, based upon what I'm seeing... you posted the same link twice... 

-RP-

[BigRed150]

 I did post the same link twicw..

$199 Kit
Kit includes:
Porter Cable 7424XP Polisher
Porter Cable 7424XP Wrench
Porter Cable 7424XP Counter Weight
5 Inch Backing Plate
2-CCS White 6.5 Inch Polishing Foam Pads
2-CCS Gray 6.5 Inch Finishing Foam Pads
1-CCS Blue 6.5 Inch Finessing Foam Pad
2 Cobra Arctic White Edgeless Microfiber Polishing Cloths
12 oz. Pinnacle XMT Polishing Pad Cleaner
12 oz. Pinnacle XMT Polishing Pad Conditioner
1 Flat Wrench & 1 Counterweight


$169 Kit
Kit includes:
Porter Cable 7424XP Polisher
Porter Cable 7424XP Wrench
Porter Cable 7424XP Counter Weight
2 CCS 5.5 Inch Gray Finishing Pads
2 CCS 5.5 Inch White Polishing Pads
1 DA Flexible 5 inch Backing Plate


Mainly need to know if the pad mix on these is a good starter..

what products to use is a whole different matter. I'll be practicing on my ranger and wife's car to start. I won't be touching my truck until I learn alot more..

I looked at ADS, but they don't have them in stock yet.

Thanks RP for taking the time to help.

[Rockpick]

For my money, it'd definitely be the second package.  I've not read much on the XMT Pinnacle stuff but, what little I have, it was very mixed on the review side -- indicating to me that it may be an 'alright' product but, the jury may still be out.

[BigRed150]

 Thanks RP.

  Now I have to figure out products. Are one of these pads good for the 105/205?

[Rockpick]

I'm going to have to defer this one to someone who knows the CCS pads better than me...

I'm a *huge* fan of 105 and the yellow SO1O pad.

[BigRed150]

I'm going to have to defer this one to someone who knows the CCS pads better than me...

I'm a *huge* fan of 105 and the yellow SO1O pad.

Will all the brands of pads fit on the pc? I would assume so but..

[leedriver]

All brands pf pads should fit on the PC fine.

I like the second kit better as well. The CCS 5.5" pads are much easier to use with a PC than the 6.5" in my opinion. I bought the first kit you listed when and don't really use the XMT stuff.

RP: have you went into any more detail about M105/solo pads in any other threads?

[BigRed150]

 Thanks Lee .. 2nd it is.. Is there any pads I should add to this?



Jeff

[leedriver]

The 4 that come with it are a good start. I really like the white CCS pads, and I use the gray for glaze and wax.

[Mike2301]

I'm going to have to defer this one to someone who knows the CCS pads better than me...

I'm a *huge* fan of 105 and the yellow SO1O pad.

Everytime i see you post i get reminded i have more crap to try  :thump:

[Bunky]

I would get bare bones package but you need tto have extra pads.

If you are you going to use M105, I think a LC white CCS pad should be fine but in my experiments with 105/205, they worked better with flat pads (finished better).  You need to clean the pads regularly or switch to new ones so 3 to 4 pads should be good.

LC white polishing with M105, LC gray finishing with M205. This combo seemed to work but paint reactions can vary.

AG sells like 5 or 6 for a discount and you can mix and match colors if you specifically ask. I just pm'ed Meghan with the order no. and she insured they did it.

[guitarman502]

Imma throw in my .02... Why not build your own package?  The reason i say this, I started out with the 6.5 inch pads, then went to the 3.5 inch LC pads and .... well let's say i am super impressed.   They are a lot cheaper than the 6.5 inch pads too.

p.s. we get discounts at some of the "Friend's of the Cafe" businesses. 

[Obsessive Detail]

I'm still waiting to hear when my shipment of the new PC is supposed to get here.  Hopefully soon!

[Kitzy]

Justin, count me in for one when you get them in.