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Exterior Detailing => Wheels, Tires and Wheel-Wells => Topic started by: Rollingrock on March 23, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
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Anyone else having issues with chemical heads and wheel brightner?
Either I got a bad bach of spray heads or this stuff is too powerful even 8:1 for the chemical resistant heads.
I get to do 3 wheels then the head won't spray...grab another one, same thing.
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I rarely have a problem with a chem resistant spray head... the heads I always have problem with are the dang foaming heads.
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The foaming heads are junk. I just picked up some WB. I haven't even tried it out yet. It seems like there are new chem resistant heads though. The one I used to get from aDS were all plastic including the inner part of the nozzle. The new ones look like this now...
(http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-41771694353694_2044_251540)
that brass part is new, the trigger is longer and theres a metal rivet you can see in the picture as well that wasn't on the old ones.
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Oooo, fancy. I may need to get some. I broke my HD head a month or so ago and have been using some random one I had in my tool box.
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While I understand that brass is a bit more resilient (and spark-free), I'd think that the metal will break down fairly quickly with a product like Westley's or similar... I'd be very interested hearing what you have to say about it once you have it in hand...
BTW, what is 'WB'... I'm missing an acronym there.
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Wheel Brightener. A lot of the time I will try to type things out atleast once in my post before I use an acronym but when I typed it out the first time I spelled it horribly wrong and decided it was much easier to just type WB. (http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/ESF521/Smileys/shrug.gif)
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I went through a chemical head using WB. I read somewhere that it was suggested to run regular water through it after using it, I started doing this and so far so good. Seems WB was eating the seals inside of something.
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Yup, same problems with wheel brightener. I've gone to pulling and flushing (with water) my heads from that particular product and keeping them off the bottle until I need them. Unfortunately, the combination of a harsh product and Chinese quality is hurting this one.
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i did see the new heads at ADS, going to pick up some to test it out.
The "grey" ones are not working, but they work fine with APC+...go figure
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I have some of the new heads. I just haven't tried them out with wheel brightener yet.
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Not to jack the thread but does anybody use the High Volume spray heads for anything? I was thinking of using it for just water to help rinse door jams and such where I don't want to use a hose because of splatter.
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I have a high volume sprayer that I used to use for Hyperdressing. I switched back to the regular sprayer because it put to much product out and I was wasting a lot. It should work for door jambs it does put out a pretty good amount of liquid.
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Not to jack the thread but does anybody use the High Volume spray heads for anything? I was thinking of using it for just water to help rinse door jams and such where I don't want to use a hose because of splatter.
I use a little 2 gallon garden sprayer for door jambs and the little bit of under the hood stuff I allow myself to get into.
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My preferred methodology on door jambs is to drink heavily EARLY in the detail so that I have my own 'personal' sprayer. :red:
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My preferred methodology on door jambs is to drink heavily EARLY in the detail so that I have my own 'personal' sprayer. :red:
Oh man... That reminds me of something...
RR?
:puke:
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My preferred methodology on door jambs is to drink heavily EARLY in the detail so that I have my own 'personal' sprayer. :red:
Does that give you the famous "new door jamb smell?" Then again, don't answer that.
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Really... the only thing that you have to remember is that it *will* strip wax. :hammer:
Okay... really...
I'll typically utilize a high-vol sprayer and Poorboy's Spray & Wipe in the jambs - unless they are absolutely HORRIBLE. In that instance, I keep a spray bottle of wash solution (high vol head again) and will take care of those areas in that fashion...
S&W is my preferred method though... Since Boss introduced me to this stuff many years ago, I've not put it down and continue to buy it by the gallon (frequently)... it's just a great chemical.
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Anyone else having issues with chemical heads and wheel brightner?
Either I got a bad bach of spray heads or this stuff is too powerful even 8:1 for the chemical resistant heads.
I get to do 3 wheels then the head won't spray...grab another one, same thing.
The spray heads are chemical resistant not chemical proof :slam: :D
They will need to be rinsed with plain soap and water after each use if you want to get more than a few uses out of them....
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Anyone else having issues with chemical heads and wheel brightner?
Either I got a bad bach of spray heads or this stuff is too powerful even 8:1 for the chemical resistant heads.
I get to do 3 wheels then the head won't spray...grab another one, same thing.
The spray heads are chemical resistant not chemical proof :slam: :D
They will need to be rinsed with plain soap and water after each use if you want to get more than a few uses out of them....
I leave my heads in on the Megs APC+ and never had an issue with that, I guess megs wheel brighterner is just too much for them. Seriously, I cannot do 4 wheels on my truck, I can can get about 3 wheels done, then head is dead and it won't spray anymore.
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Anyone else having issues with chemical heads and wheel brightner?
Either I got a bad bach of spray heads or this stuff is too powerful even 8:1 for the chemical resistant heads.
I get to do 3 wheels then the head won't spray...grab another one, same thing.
The spray heads are chemical resistant not chemical proof :slam: :D
They will need to be rinsed with plain soap and water after each use if you want to get more than a few uses out of them....
I leave my heads in on the Megs APC+ and never had an issue with that, I guess megs wheel brighterner is just too much for them. Seriously, I cannot do 4 wheels on my truck, I can can get about 3 wheels done, then head is dead and it won't spray anymore.
the APC can stay on for years, but the WB is way too strong for the Viton seals
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Does it harm the pickup tube or just the seals inside?
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Does it harm the pickup tube or just the seals inside?
you pull the trigger and nothing happens, so what ever that part is, it destroys.
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I guess that could be any part of it. I imagine if it's the tub ethough you could just take the had off and visually inspect the tube. It is clear. I was asking because if it's harmful to the pickup tube I was going to remove the heads even before I use them and just cap the bottles. If it's only internally in the spray head then I can leave the head on and just remove and clean thorougly after use and put it back on.
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actually it is the inside seal. the grey chemical ones have a patented Viton seal which is supposed to be the most chemical resistant seal
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I got the new Chem Heads yesterday from ADS, they are much different than the Chem heads I got at wash solutions.
We'll see how they work on Sunday
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I guess that could be any part of it. I imagine if it's the tub ethough you could just take the had off and visually inspect the tube. It is clear. I was asking because if it's harmful to the pickup tube I was going to remove the heads even before I use them and just cap the bottles. If it's only internally in the spray head then I can leave the head on and just remove and clean thorougly after use and put it back on.
That's exactly what I do - remove them after each use. Next, I screw them onto a bottle of clean water and spray until I think I've got everything out, then I remove the head, squeeze the trigger a few times until all of the water comes out, then set it aside until next time. This usually buys me a few more uses. By the way, I only do this for Wheel Brightener.
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I too have the same problem. Ruined like 4 heads, including the old chemical resistant ones.
Those new ones look spiffy...
*Side note, I think WB is acidic, where as APC is basic... thus the different issues with the heads. APC doesn't hurt mine at all.
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I too have the same problem. Ruined like 4 heads, including the old chemical resistant ones.
Those new ones look spiffy...
*Side note, I think WB is acidic, where as APC is basic... thus the different issues with the heads. APC doesn't hurt mine at all.
well I killed one of the new heads, but I did get all 4 wheels done...it died shortly after. I mess around with it some so I am testing a second to see what happens if I leave it over night.
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I too have the same problem. Ruined like 4 heads, including the old chemical resistant ones.
Those new ones look spiffy...
*Side note, I think WB is acidic, where as APC is basic... thus the different issues with the heads. APC doesn't hurt mine at all.
well I killed one of the new heads, but I did get all 4 wheels done...it died shortly after. I mess around with it some so I am testing a second to see what happens if I leave it over night.
it really doesn't matter how fancy they make them look, it's the inside seal that the product kills ..the Viton is the best out there but again still needs to be cleaned after each use ... mine last months with cleaning