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Title: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 15, 2021, 10:34:02 PM
I know I owe comments to other threads right now but wanted to let you all know I can still clean and detail a rig.  Had to put new shoes on the truck,  went back to BFG ATKO 2's.   Had a little trouble getting them balanced, and the do ride stiffer than the Michelin's but over all, glad to be back in a capable tire.   They did end up road force balance them but I am no 100% they did the correctly.  At 80 mph, there is a shimmy....we'll give it another 1000 miles and maybe recheck em.    This week is a hell week.   Well the rest of this month is a hell week.  All over the place and all work.       

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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Too Stroked on August 16, 2021, 06:44:09 AM
Nice! Love that color!
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on August 17, 2021, 12:50:26 PM
Classic tire.  Always a winner.  Lookin good!


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Blown F-150 on August 17, 2021, 01:58:50 PM
Those are a good solid tire, nice choice. I'm still debating if I go back to the Ridge Grapplers on the next se or not.
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 17, 2021, 02:11:01 PM
So guys, 

I need shocks gents, this ATKO's are rougher from a compound and sideway perspective.

I am thinking Bilsteen shocks but looking at the Fox ones too...kind of budget conscience of course. 

What would be your recommendations there.

Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on August 17, 2021, 02:20:39 PM
My recommendation is to suck it up butter cup.  It’s not a damn Cadillac.  I remember I thought my Ram 4500 work truck rode rough.  Then I got my f450.  Now my work truck is a 2021 Chevy 4500 and I’ve never driven anything like it’s. Makes the F450 feel like a dream. 

For what it’s worth, I have no input on shocks for you.  I just commented to talk shit. 


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 17, 2021, 02:33:49 PM
My recommendation is to suck it up butter cup. 


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Kitzy coming in hot.......
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on August 23, 2021, 07:07:39 AM
Those are a good solid tire, nice choice. I'm still debating if I go back to the Ridge Grapplers on the next se or not.
I don’t know much about them but nitto and Mickey both have new tires.

Nitto has the recon grapplers and Mickey has the Baja boss.  Both brands have served me well in the past.  I like the look of both. 


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 25, 2021, 08:28:58 PM
Just got home from around 1100 miles from DFW to AR back to DFW then to Austin TX and back

These tires are not balanced well.   I gotta go back for a THIRD TIME.

UGh

Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on August 26, 2021, 05:41:45 PM
Just got home from around 1100 miles from DFW to AR back to DFW then to Austin TX and back

These tires are not balanced well.   I gotta go back for a THIRD TIME.

UGh
Is it just a nuisance vibration or something crazy and shaky?


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 26, 2021, 05:47:47 PM
It’s a little shimmy and some increased feedback.    Certain road surfaces are worse than others.     Wheel and seat, there is more pronounced vibration.     Wondering if it’s a matter of a harder compound of the ATKO’s.     Dunno. 


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on August 26, 2021, 05:53:08 PM
It’s a little shimmy and some increased feedback.    Certain road surfaces are worse than others.     Wheel and seat, there is more pronounced vibration.     Wondering if it’s a matter of a harder compound of the ATKO’s.     Dunno. 


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The shimmy would be my only concern.  The increased feedback and any harshness is to be expected.  I’ve had tires that took a few hundred miles to break in and not grab every line on the road but it sounds like you have that mileage covered.


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on August 29, 2021, 08:12:28 PM
It’s a little shimmy and some increased feedback.    Certain road surfaces are worse than others.     Wheel and seat, there is more pronounced vibration.     Wondering if it’s a matter of a harder compound of the ATKO’s.     Dunno. 


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The shimmy would be my only concern.  The increased feedback and any harshness is to be expected.  I’ve had tires that took a few hundred miles to break in and not grab every line on the road but it sounds like you have that mileage covered.


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Gonna run back up to Discount Tire this week and maybe ask for Road Force Balancing and maybe index a tire or two.   

Its not right.   
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on September 05, 2021, 08:09:49 PM
Tire issue resolved.  Went back to Discount Tire yesterday for a 3rd time to rebalance.  Talked to the GM of this store who just so happned to be the GM in the Keller Store when I lived there and for the past 20 years, this GM has put tires on every single car/truck/jeep I have owned.

He said that the AT KO's are not what they used to be, they have lots of issues with them so for 300 more bucks, they took them off and put on Nitto Recon Grapplers.    I have to say, they are really nice.  These maybe my new FAV tire. 

Have a look.   they roll well and they are balanced and the truck performs perfectly at 60-90 mph. 

Next up is new shocks all the way around, however, I am super poor right now.  Gotta pay for a bike and a watch AND get out of debt....so shocks may be a winter project.     

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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Too Stroked on September 06, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
Looks great!
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on September 06, 2021, 05:34:08 PM
They look good.  I’ve been curious about them.  Not that I can run them but still.


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on September 06, 2021, 06:37:21 PM
And no comments on the wells.   

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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Blown F-150 on September 07, 2021, 03:12:32 PM
I had to look up those tires, look really good! Sorry to hear about the KO2's, that's no fun at all.
How's the ride with these?
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Kitzy on September 07, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
I had to look up those tires, look really good! Sorry to hear about the KO2's, that's no fun at all.
How's the ride with these?
It’s almost like they weren’t mentioned in post 8 of this thread.  Haha.



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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Blown F-150 on September 07, 2021, 09:23:28 PM
I struggled to balance my KO2's as well, but it ended up being my own fault, there were still balancing beads in them when the shop tried to balance, lol.

Seems that balancing issues is becoming more and more common with the KO2's.
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on September 08, 2021, 08:47:07 PM
Threw the new Fox 2.0's on today.   Ford made the front factory shocks nice and easy to get off.   (Total sarcasm).

I struggled to balance my KO2's as well, but it ended up being my own fault, there were still balancing beads in them when the shop tried to balance, lol.

Seems that balancing issues is becoming more and more common with the KO2's.

Discount Tire guy told me they are having more and more issues with AKO's.  Told me that BFG has changed up the compounds 3 times in the past 3 years and can't seem to dial them in.   Even Discount Tire dropped their own version of the tire that was exclusive to Discount, it was the BFG, ATKO 2 DT, they were using the 3rd gen version and dropped them b.c of all the issues.   or something like that.    That's how I heard it (Mike Rowe)


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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on September 10, 2021, 11:08:17 AM
found this while surfing today

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Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Blown F-150 on November 15, 2021, 10:07:42 PM
My truck is going to be due for new tires pretty soon. I've had these KO2's for more than 3 years (that my be a record for me). I looked pretty seriously at the Recon Grappler's, but in the end I think the Toyo AT3's are going to take the win for me. I wouldn't recommend the AT3's for a 250 or 350, but for my little 150, I think they will hit all the marks I need and as a bonus meets the winter rating to give me a insurance discount.

We'll see.
Title: Re: New shoes for the truck.
Post by: Rollingrock on November 17, 2021, 12:48:25 AM
My truck is going to be due for new tires pretty soon. I've had these KO2's for more than 3 years (that my be a record for me). I looked pretty seriously at the Recon Grappler's, but in the end I think the Toyo AT3's are going to take the win for me. I wouldn't recommend the AT3's for a 250 or 350, but for my little 150, I think they will hit all the marks I need and as a bonus meets the winter rating to give me a insurance discount.

We'll see.

Not sure you can go wrong with those choices.   Now that I have had the tires a bit, i really like them outside of that little tiny vibration at 62 mph that goes away at 64
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