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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Blown F-150 on January 03, 2020, 10:19:43 PM
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Took the truck out today for some off-road fun. I got a local buddy to tag along with his 2017.
We went down a pretty mild trail, but he got stuck pretty bad going “off trial” and I had to winch him out.
It was a lot of fun and as a bonus, I don’t think I broke anything, woohoo.
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Man that looks fun! Are those wild horses?
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Man that looks fun! Are those wild horses?
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Yeah, they are wild. Apparently everywhere in the area
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https://youtu.be/r3C3a-HHwm8
https://youtu.be/-10O1efd6nk
https://youtu.be/IWhZRMPmsJ4
https://youtu.be/SBY8s0ksG_E
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Looks like fun - for the guy on the control end of the winch!
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I like how your buddy's windshield is cracked. Haha
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I like how your buddy's windshield is cracked. Haha
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It might have been before the phrase hold my beer watch this.. Came out. :funny:
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do you lower air pressure for snow like that? I don't think my F250 is a very good 4x4.
But that is proof that if you know how to drive you can take these trucks places like that.
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do you lower air pressure for snow like that? I don't think my F250 is a very good 4x4.
But that is proof that if you know how to drive you can take these trucks places like that.
Big heavy trucks with wide tires aren't the greatest in snow. Narrow tires, good tread pattern with lots of siping and a soft rubber compound. The siping is super important. It actually grabs the snow and hangs on to it so the snow on the tire is acting as grip with the snow on the ground. Snow grips better go itself than rubber does.
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Looks like fun - for the guy on the control end of the winch!
He wasn't too happy that I made it through and he didn't. :nana:
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I like how your buddy's windshield is cracked. Haha
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It might have been before the phrase hold my beer watch this.. Came out. :funny:
Well, we are literally the worst area for busted windshields, they use "gravel" on our roads around here. Pretty much guaranteed to get a chip/crack every year.
do you lower air pressure for snow like that? I don't think my F250 is a very good 4x4.
But that is proof that if you know how to drive you can take these trucks places like that.
Big heavy trucks with wide tires aren't the greatest in snow. Narrow tires, good tread pattern with lots of siping and a soft rubber compound. The siping is super important. It actually grabs the snow and hangs on to it so the snow on the tire is acting as grip with the snow on the ground. Snow grips better go itself than rubber does.
I would normally 100% agree, but it was very interesting this time out.
So I run 305/65/18's and he runs 285/70/17's. He has new Duratrac's and I and have "near" new KO2's. By all accounts, I thought I was going to be the one getting stuck, but he got stuck several times and couldn't climb for sh*t compared to me.
My truck is almost exactly 1000lbs heavier than his to boot. But, my theory is that the conditions were conducive to a wider tire. He would bite right through the snow and spin on the frozen ground, where as I was staying on top of the snow and continuing to get some bite with the snow. We climbed up one switch-back type logging road where anything over 10* slope lead to him getting stuck or really struggling. I was fine right up to 17* slope and only had to stop and turn around (actually back down like 200 yards), was because he couldn't make it up.
It was odd and completely counter-intuitive to what I thought would happen. We both aired down to around 30psi and are running LT tires.
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I like how your buddy's windshield is cracked. Haha
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It might have been before the phrase hold my beer watch this.. Came out. :funny:
Well, we are literally the worst area for busted windshields, they use "gravel" on our roads around here. Pretty much guaranteed to get a chip/crack every year.
do you lower air pressure for snow like that? I don't think my F250 is a very good 4x4.
But that is proof that if you know how to drive you can take these trucks places like that.
Big heavy trucks with wide tires aren't the greatest in snow. Narrow tires, good tread pattern with lots of siping and a soft rubber compound. The siping is super important. It actually grabs the snow and hangs on to it so the snow on the tire is acting as grip with the snow on the ground. Snow grips better go itself than rubber does.
I would normally 100% agree, but it was very interesting this time out.
So I run 305/65/18's and he runs 285/70/17's. He has new Duratrac's and I and have "near" new KO2's. By all accounts, I thought I was going to be the one getting stuck, but he got stuck several times and couldn't climb for sh*t compared to me.
My truck is almost exactly 1000lbs heavier than his to boot. But, my theory is that the conditions were conducive to a wider tire. He would bite right through the snow and spin on the frozen ground, where as I was staying on top of the snow and continuing to get some bite with the snow. We climbed up one switch-back type logging road where anything over 10* slope lead to him getting stuck or really struggling. I was fine right up to 17* slope and only had to stop and turn around (actually back down like 200 yards), was because he couldn't make it up.
It was odd and completely counter-intuitive to what I thought would happen. We both aired down to around 30psi and are running LT tires.
Oh I could believe that you'd do better than him based on those pics. I'd call that deep / loose snow and that's the kind of stuff you want to float up on. The narrower tires (like I run) are far better on hard pack / ice though - and pretty useless in deep stuff - for just the reasons you mentioned.
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How deep do you think that snow is? Enough to touch frame? I was thinking being able to cut down through the snow may be beneficial if you can reach pavement or ground. Otherwise I wonder if it's not better to float the snow and let that siping take hold.
Edit - Didn't see Tom's post. Damnit.
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Edit - Didn't see Tom's post. Damnit.
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The force is not strong with this one. :yoda:
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How deep do you think that snow is? Enough to touch frame? I was thinking being able to cut down through the snow may be beneficial if you can reach pavement or ground. Otherwise I wonder if it's not better to float the snow and let that siping take hold.
Edit - Didn't see Tom's post. Damnit.
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I was dragging the rear end/frame in a few spots, so kinda deep. In this case the snow offered more traction then the frozen ground.
Probably a different story if he had studs or chains.
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Went out and had some more fun today. We tackled a different trail the got to be pretty challenging and narrow. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/d1d2a8ad8fadff6f37fa13a51aca6614.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/2eb3e9b71885d07ffc0570014f3fb3c8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/9a4a97bac0d14ab1c67b9db5e8165820.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/bf1b4cd5b8970847a8039245e761f80c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/640afaf5fcb5033345467f6b60455f1c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/13611ffe9545d03ce8f1f6427b37891a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/9820a149b4d25f26ee02f7b49d550267.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200201/df317dfa9121c49e7a2bec852f663f03.jpg)
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https://youtu.be/s4jwh2X6RIE
https://youtu.be/fWaLU-82oCg
https://youtu.be/vZrCdNagp-A
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I almost forgot how beautiful it is up there! Please send some snow over here!
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It's absolutely beautiful up there! I have to watch the videos yet but looks like a good time for sure!
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Usually more snow this time of year, but makes it more friendly for folks like me exploring with all-terrains.
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That video coming up the hill really shows the landscape. Breathe taking. Super jealous. I ringed watching you slide near those trees trying to get the donut started. Haha
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By the way, this is a great shot! I wish I had a raw image file so I could really play around with it in Photoshop and Lightroom.
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By the way, this is a great shot! I wish I had a raw image file so I could really play around with it in Photoshop and Lightroom.
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Shoot me your email and I can send it over.
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Great photos....just think you "could" be using follow me via Drone and get some great overhead shots. !!!
Question, do you all run lower tire pressure when in the snow like that? I just see my F250 not going very far in that stuff.
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Yes, trust me, I have thought about it.
Right now the next big purchase will be a lift or a drone. I may have to flip a coin once I have the funds set aside.
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Oh, you got me all distracted with the Drone comment, lol!
I only drop a few PSI when on the trail. If I run into a situation where I need more traction, I drop from 37 to 28ish.
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Oh, you got me all distracted with the Drone comment, lol!
I only drop a few PSI when on the trail. If I run into a situation where I need more traction, I drop from 37 to 28ish.
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LOL.....my head is fried too....I know it was simple but I just realized that I removed and cut a lot of structure out of my front bumper today.
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Oh, you got me all distracted with the Drone comment, lol!
I only drop a few PSI when on the trail. If I run into a situation where I need more traction, I drop from 37 to 28ish.
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LOL.....my head is fried too....I know it was simple but I just realized that I removed and cut a lot of structure out of my front bumper today.
That shouldn't be a problem - unless of course you run into your mailbox again. :uugly:
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Oh, you got me all distracted with the Drone comment, lol!
I only drop a few PSI when on the trail. If I run into a situation where I need more traction, I drop from 37 to 28ish.
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LOL.....my head is fried too....I know it was simple but I just realized that I removed and cut a lot of structure out of my front bumper today.
That shouldn't be a problem - unless of course you run into your mailbox again. :uugly:
Cheap shot... I like it.
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:om: funny tom
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Yes, trust me, I have thought about it.
Right now the next big purchase will be a lift or a drone. I may have to flip a coin once I have the funds set aside.
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Just going to leave this here... Skydio 2. Probably the best tracking drone out.
https://youtu.be/ANsbEpQKeuw
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I was actually look at them. They seem to be tough to get North of the Border. I've reached out to a couple local Drone shops and they are seeing what they can do. I can always ship it state-side and pock it up.
I'm not %100 sure though if I go with this or the Mavic 2 zoom (similar price point). Or just get a used Pro like yours.
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I was actually look at them. They seem to be tough to get North of the Border. I've reached out to a couple local Drone shops and they are seeing what they can do. I can always ship it state-side and pock it up.
I'm not %100 sure though if I go with this or the Mavic 2 zoom (similar price point). Or just get a used Pro like yours.
Between the Mavic 2 Pro and Zoom I would still get the Pro over the Zoom just for the bigger sensor with more dynamic range, adjustable aperture, etc. I guess the Zoom has a few cool features geared more towards video. Maybe if you want it more for video then the zoom would be a good choice.
There's always the new Autel Evo 2.
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I found a BNIB MAvic Pro 1 with extras for $1000 cdn. It will probably do just fine.
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I found a BNIB MAvic Pro 1 with extras for $1000 cdn. It will probably do just fine.
So then roughly $750 US?
What extras? Batteries are a must and ND filters are good for video. Extra props are nice for... Accidents. Haha.
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Yeah about that US $$$
3 batteries, a couple filters and 8 props.
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I guess probably closer to $700
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I guess probably closer to $700
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That's a good price either way. sounds like the fly more kit. Cheapest I see is $850 from non reputable places. $950 from B&H for the regular Pro and $1130 for the Platinum version which is what I have. They're essentially the same thing but the Platinum came with the more efficient, quieter props. They're all interchangeable anyway.
The Mavic 2 Pro will give you better results straight from the box with no editing. It also is way better at night. It will track better. I dont think mine does a great job of tracking but I only tried it when I first got it and didn't know what I was doing. You can definitely get good results from the MP1. You just have to work a little harder to get similar results.
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