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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: sscully on December 16, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
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I finally got around to converting my 8' HO fluorescent fixtures to LED.
- I have the house just about all converted for the recess cans and the cloud fixture in the laundry room.
I have been using SP35 color corrected bulbs in 8' HO fixtures for years.
Dad finally got something for the farm market LED conversion, that is color correcting, so I figure I would go with the same ones.
- I have the same fixtures in my garage as the market has. Markets need to keep an eye on color correcting, so food does not look bad in the light.
These are 4100 K color temp, SP35 bulbs are 3500K. Lumen output is close ( LED are 5% more ).
It is a conversion from 8' bulb to 2 4' bulbs
- Each fixture went from 2 bulbs to 4 bulbs.
Before
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y-maWotBwWg/VI95iuIZQgI/AAAAAAAABBc/SMPypQJYGmA/s640/LED%2520-%2520Before_01.JPG)
After
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7mlsNNWj0Is/VI95hMI2vDI/AAAAAAAABB4/VscI3_Ajdxk/s640/LED%2520-%2520After_02.JPG)
Before
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7j9GMBpOD8I/VI95jORUShI/AAAAAAAABBg/kbSkC2LwXYE/s640/LED%2520-%2520Before_04.JPG)
After ( car has been corrected on this side, pay attention to other items and the floor )
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qDQdAU6meTM/VI95ivWyYCI/AAAAAAAABBk/1ydf85oi7pQ/s640/LED%2520-%2520After_09%2520vs%2520Before_04.JPG)
After
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qKaaG6F4Vn4/VI95hJf_QgI/AAAAAAAABB0/HAF9U5yCOKQ/s640/LED%2520-%2520After_03.JPG)
The Camera did not focus on them. There are 5 parking lot door dents in this side. Before with the SP35s, I only saw 2 of them :wow:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lKkCTuEY8UI/VI95iUcYPPI/AAAAAAAABBo/IqnYTCcFlgw/s640/LED%2520-%2520After_08%2520-%2520single%2520light.JPG)
The LED fixtures make the SP35 bulbs look yellow, which is a task to say the least.
These are direct wire LEDs, no ballast.
- the laundry room is also a direct wire with the Sylvania Entura LED bulbs.
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I love LED's .... LED everything :Me:
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You've got me interested. Dare I ask how much?
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I don't have the price for these yet.
The Sylvania EnduraLED T8 bulbs for the house, were ~ 64.00 each tube.
That would be ~ $ 250.00 each fixture for the Sylvania conversion.
- add in 4 new tombstones and a center plate to get to a 4' T8 bulb instead of 8' HO, so closer to 260.00 each. These kits I put in had everything to convert any fixture type to LED.
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I don't have the price for these yet.
The Sylvania EnduraLED T8 bulbs for the house, were ~ 64.00 each tube.
That would be ~ $ 250.00 each fixture for the Sylvania conversion.
- add in 4 new tombstones and a center plate to get to a 4' T8 bulb instead of 8' HO, so closer to 260.00 each. These kits I put in had everything to convert any fixture type to LED.
Thanks Steve. That puts a damper on things. Remember, I'm a pensioner now! :om:
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Thanks Steve. That puts a damper on things. Remember, I'm a pensioner now! :om:
LEDs are not for the faint of heart, regardless of the voltage.
- Recall how brutal the LED bar for your truck was.
Dad is also doing the RV dealer.
He did the lot lights, replaced 1000W metal halide with LED fixtures.
- Went from 277 VAC to 110 VAC and they are now running 2 fixtures for < 1/2 the cost of one.
I did the lights on the garage with these
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-Wall-Mount-Outdoor-Bronze-LED-Area-Light-OLAW23-53K-120-PE-BZ/202924653#customer_reviews (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-Wall-Mount-Outdoor-Bronze-LED-Area-Light-OLAW23-53K-120-PE-BZ/202924653#customer_reviews)
They work great ( I cannot find my pictures at night, but this gives an idea )
(http://homedepot.ugc.bazaarvoice.com/1999m/91608/photo.jpg)
Daytime shot, they blend nice when off ( our house )
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RcFZfh5t55Q/U4nh8fg0_0I/AAAAAAAAA9Y/4cuuhGzTRBc/s640/20140530%2520Fringe%2520Tree%2520Front.JPG)
The Laundry room after conversion, no flash
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lSz0r3IWBzw/UR-ixDqe6gI/AAAAAAAAAsE/duzePVK4YEE/s512/Post%2520Retro%2520-%2520no%2520Flash.JPG)
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In b4 Jason! LED love!
Tapatalkin...
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Steve,
Any noticeable change in your power bill? Just curious as I would like to start swapping to LED in parts of the house as budget allows.
Obviously, I'm not looking for immediate ROI, but I figure LED's are the way to go for the long term.
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Steve,
Any noticeable change in your power bill? Just curious as I would like to start swapping to LED in parts of the house as budget allows.
Obviously, I'm not looking for immediate ROI, but I figure LED's are the way to go for the long term.
I'm pretty sure the price point has to come down some more in order for them to pay off in any reasonable amount of time. I'd also venture that the quality curve has to bend up a bit too. For as long as LEDs are supposed to last, so far I've been somewhat disappointed in the quality / longevity of the automotive ones.
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Steve,
Any noticeable change in your power bill? Just curious as I would like to start swapping to LED in parts of the house as budget allows.
Obviously, I'm not looking for immediate ROI, but I figure LED's are the way to go for the long term.
I'm pretty sure the price point has to come down some more in order for them to pay off in any reasonable amount of time. I'd also venture that the quality curve has to bend up a bit too. For as long as LEDs are supposed to last, so far I've been somewhat disappointed in the quality / longevity of the automotive ones.
Thanks Tom, I am sure I have a smaller resource pool to pull from up here north of the border, but am starting research now. I am putting budget together to "renovate" the garage in the spring and wanted to do LED's. I figure I can get more lights out of the same amp draw. Unfortunately my garage is wired more as a "Car port" and I have to watch what I want to plug in. Basically the whole thing is on a 15amp breaker.... :dope:
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Steve,
Any noticeable change in your power bill? Just curious as I would like to start swapping to LED in parts of the house as budget allows.
Obviously, I'm not looking for immediate ROI, but I figure LED's are the way to go for the long term.
I'm pretty sure the price point has to come down some more in order for them to pay off in any reasonable amount of time. I'd also venture that the quality curve has to bend up a bit too. For as long as LEDs are supposed to last, so far I've been somewhat disappointed in the quality / longevity of the automotive ones.
Basically the whole thing is on a 15amp breaker.... :dope:
Have you considered candles? Man, with only 15 amps available, LEDs are about the only way you can go!
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Going fluorescent bulbs to LED, I doubt there will be much of a power change. Best case is about 25% less amp usage on LED.
- I just started it Sunday, and finished Tuesday, so no bill to compare for this project.
It will be hard to tell if there is any savings with everything that runs in the house.
- 2 racks of monoblock amps for the house sound system.
- 3 servers, The dual Xeon with 64GB is a space heater on to itself
- electric heater in the garage ( running tonight to try to opti coat the car ).
My ComEd energy report, I am almost double the average neighbors ( of ~ same size house ) for monthly consumption and 3x+ the energy efficient neighbors.
Having 15A, that is on the edge for running 2 halogen work lamps and a Rupes or Flex.
- Less if the wire is under sized or old.
I think the 1st step, in your project, is to run 2 20 AMP circuits out there.
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In b4 Jason! LED love!
Tapatalkin...
LOL,,,we are slowly converting the house over to LED but those garage lights make me say no way right now.
Steve is made of money. Our Money tree died in March of this year.
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LOL,,,we are slowly converting the house over to LED but those garage lights make me say no way right now.
Steve is made of money. Our Money tree died in March of this year.
Keep in mind:
I did not buy a jeep
I did not buy a side by side
I did not have to rent a larger storage building to put it all in
:beat:
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LOL,,,we are slowly converting the house over to LED but those garage lights make me say no way right now.
Steve is made of money. Our Money tree died in March of this year.
Keep in mind:
I did not buy a jeep
I did not buy a side by side
I did not have to rent a larger storage building to put it all in
:beat:
Jeep bought in Aug 2013
Side by Side was bought USED.
Storage was acquired in 2013.
Our money tree died when we put all new wood and tile floors in the house this year then lost my job....so not so winning.
Don't throw stones from the Power Lock House. :)
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Whoa whoa! Shots fired! Haha.
Hilarious... all in good fun.
Tapatalkin...
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Jeep bought in Aug 2013
Side by Side was bought USED.
Storage was acquired in 2013.
Our money tree died when we put all new wood and tile floors in the house this year then lost my job....so not so winning.
Don't throw stones from the Power Lock House. :)
Good god, I forgot about the flooring project... :wow:
I guess, from your vantage point, I am made of money after spending like that for 2 years. :dunno:
I do not recall any large expense / projects in 2013. I did buy a pair of boots with fabric eyelets, that tore out last month and I had to replace.
- I did the review on amazon last night, it was MAr-2013 when I bought them.
2013, until the end of MAY I was covering 2 reps over 4 states, so there was not much time for spending money. Only driving ~ 900+ miles per week.
BTW : I bought the Power Lock on sale.. :redneck:
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Going fluorescent bulbs to LED, I doubt there will be much of a power change. Best case is about 25% less amp usage on LED.
- I just started it Sunday, and finished Tuesday, so no bill to compare for this project.
It will be hard to tell if there is any savings with everything that runs in the house.
- 2 racks of monoblock amps for the house sound system.
- 3 servers, The dual Xeon with 64GB is a space heater on to itself
- electric heater in the garage ( running tonight to try to opti coat the car ).
My ComEd energy report, I am almost double the average neighbors ( of ~ same size house ) for monthly consumption and 3x+ the energy efficient neighbors.
Having 15A, that is on the edge for running 2 halogen work lamps and a Rupes or Flex.
- Less if the wire is under sized or old.
I think the 1st step, in your project, is to run 2 20 AMP circuits out there.
I agree that it needs way more power. I have to look into what I can and can't do as I am part of a Townhouse complex. Even if I drop 25% going to the LED's in the to 4ft's in the ceiling, it will help me for now. I still have to confirm, but I think the lights and Garage opener are on a separate breaker.
I would also love to get one 240v outlet out there too.
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- 2 racks of monoblock amps for the house sound system.
- 3 servers, The dual Xeon with 64GB is a space heater on to itself
- electric heater in the garage ( running tonight to try to opti coat the car ).
To be clear, I have none of these luxuries in my non custom built house.
Just saying :redneck:
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How much energy does a wall mount dial phone consume?
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/TomChecksFacebook.jpg)
Should I consider upgrading to something more modern? :funny:
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To be clear, I have none of these luxuries in my non custom built house.
Just saying :redneck:
2 racks of monoblock amps for the house sound system.
I'll give you this one
- even though they costs less than the LED lights ( not mentioning wheels / tires, doors, etc ) on your Jeep.
3 servers, The dual Xeon with 64GB is a space heater on to itself
Work related items. I don't need 5 TB of SAN and a ESXi 5.5 server myself. Cost of doing business in technology sector.
Electric heater in the garage ( running tonight to try to opti coat the car ).
What the heck would you need this for in TX ?
- You can skip the 3 days it is 34* and wait for a different JAN day :Me:
23-JAN-2013 :
(http://www.thedetailerscafe.com/smf/gallery/3/464-240113071351.jpeg)
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I agree that it needs way more power. I have to look into what I can and can't do as I am part of a Townhouse complex. Even if I drop 25% going to the LED's in the to 4ft's in the ceiling, it will help me for now. I still have to confirm, but I think the lights and Garage opener are on a separate breaker.
I would also love to get one 240v outlet out there too.
If the lights and opener are on a separate circuit, you are already set.
You only have the DA ( and maybe a radio ) on the other circuit.
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How much energy does a wall mount dial phone consume?
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/TomChecksFacebook.jpg[/url])
Should I consider upgrading to something more modern? :funny:
For you, zero.
- The -48 VDC is from the Bell operating company.
Don't ever get rid of that phone. I think it will work past a nuke being lit off.
Now if you try to replace the acoustic coupler to get the Thedetailerscade.com, that is going to cost.
You are going to need to have one shipped back from the middle east or Africa.
- It is going to cost in shipping, they don't want them either.. :redneck:
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How much energy does a wall mount dial phone consume?
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/TomChecksFacebook.jpg[/url])
Should I consider upgrading to something more modern? :funny:
I want to point out that this photo is more fake than the foam snard. Note there is no cable from the bottom of the phone to the pole....nice try Tom..I do like how this photo does get legs like 5-7 times per year.
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How much energy does a wall mount dial phone consume?
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/TomChecksFacebook.jpg[/url])
Should I consider upgrading to something more modern? :funny:
I want to point out that this photo is more fake than the foam snard. Note there is no cable from the bottom of the phone to the pole....nice try Tom..I do like how this photo does get legs like 5-7 times per year.
wire should come in behind the phone where the mounting plate is.
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How much energy does a wall mount dial phone consume?
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/TomChecksFacebook.jpg[/url])
Should I consider upgrading to something more modern? :funny:
I want to point out that this photo is more fake than the foam snard. Note there is no cable from the bottom of the phone to the pole....nice try Tom..I do like how this photo does get legs like 5-7 times per year.
wire should come in behind the phone where the mounting plate is.
Could be but haven't seen that mount in a long time. More disturbing is the amount of chains in the picture.
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wire should come in behind the phone where the mounting plate is.
Could be but haven't seen that mount in a long time...<snip>...
I am not 100% sure on that model Western Electric, but if it is the same as the slim line, it looks like this :
(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/a2/a29673be-d698-4bec-bb8b-5b8225363306_300.jpg)
That phone is so old, it might still be using a 318A 4 pin jack :redneck:
...<snip>... More disturbing is the amount of chains in the picture.
That is multi use space, garage, detailing shop and S&M dungeon :wow:
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Hah, you're all wrong! The phone is connected to the national phone grid, the internet, the sanitary sewer system, Netflix, Victoria's Secret, NORAD (and a few things I'm not at liberty to mention) via a wireless secure satellite uplink that cleverly uses the otherwise innocent looking chains as super conductors. This allows me to hide the multi-million dollar handset in plain site.
That said, I'm sure nobody will be able to figure out the technology behind my new cell phone: :nana:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/DialCellPhone.jpg)
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....<snip>..
That said, I'm sure nobody will be able to figure out the technology behind my new cell phone: :nana:
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/DialCellPhone.jpg[/url])
Is the technology behind your new cell phone Photoshop ?
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That said, I'm sure nobody will be able to figure out the technology behind my new cell phone: :nana:
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/tfwarda/DialCellPhone.jpg[/url])
Is the technology behind your new cell phone Photoshop ?
What, you think a guy with a dial phone would know how to use something like that? Shame on you! :om: