The Detailers Cafe
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pockets on October 22, 2014, 10:36:55 AM
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So I went for the drive yesterday and while I was super impressed by the truck itself I was not so impressed with the "experience" =(
It was just a test drive around the perimeter of the shopping complex.... no drag race, no course, no braking test, etc. The people that we drove with did not even know the HP numbers of the 3.5 and said it was not released yet 0.o so I had to educate them on all of it when they should have had the answer to every question I asked. They were very very nice though and held some knowledge about the new things with the truck. I also got an aluminum key chain with the new F-150 logo on it.
The truck was gorgeous though! The inside just oozed quality and the redesign looks sharp! The 3.5 had a lot of balls with what little I stepped on it, the whistle kicked on and I hear it for the first time ever it was a beautiful noise.
Here is a quick shot:
(http://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150online.com-vbulletin/540x960/80-10411230_10203467969244748_1049900142087942984_n_31e1be7a30c653d49e2c3b3f8f9aa332cb9ea29e.jpg)
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Wow, you drove a 2105! I didn't think they were out for another 90 years or so. :uugly:
I drove the (then new) Ecoboost when it first came out and Ford offered to bring one to my door. The girl that delivered it knew almost nothing about it either. You'd think Ford would want them to know the vehicle inside and out.
As for the 2015, I hear they're pretty nice and the 2.7 Ecoboost is supposed to be a real pleasant surprise. I'm going to hold off for a few years to see how the aluminum body holds up to road salt. Although they may not "rust', they do corrode. It just looks different. And from what I hear, the painting process was one of the big headaches (along with crash repair) that Ford struggled with.
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Very cool Pockets! I have yet to even see one in person. I was at the dealer today (getting a ridiculously expensive oil change) and was bugging the sales guys for info and brochures, they had nothing for me... :dunno:
I'm really on the fence on what to do, if the incentives are good enough, I may bite the bullet on a new one. On the other hand, the PSD has been running sooo good and I just dropped $1800 on tires for it, I may want to just keep it. Being payment free is sweet too.
Did anything stick out as really nice? How were the seats, the way the doors opened and closed, etc?
As for the aluminum alloy, I am pretty optimistic on it. Really, they stole most of the formula from their Jag and Land Rover days. I did some research and the Alloy from the other brands it has held up pretty well. My buddy has a older Jag XJ with aluminum fenders, hood, etc in the salt spreading capitol of Winnipeg. He said he has had zero corrosion issues and is a "Auto wash" sort of guy. You never know, till you know but I doubt with the investment made by ford on this that it will be a flop.
But now that TS has moved from Ford, I am sure he'll be all over us if we have issue with them.... :nana:
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You would think Tom but we all know that's just too hard sometimes :cart:
Very cool Pockets! I have yet to even see one in person. I was at the dealer today (getting a ridiculously expensive oil change) and was bugging the sales guys for info and brochures, they had nothing for me... :dunno:
Yea they don't have much of anything yet on the 2015's I'm really surprised you'd think they would push it much harder. But they do want to get rid of every last 2014 on the lot before they do that though.
I'm really on the fence on what to do, if the incentives are good enough, I may bite the bullet on a new one. On the other hand, the PSD has been running sooo good and I just dropped $1800 on tires for it, I may want to just keep it. Being payment free is sweet too.
There probably wont be any incentives out from what I hear but I just can't wrap my head on how they will compete with the other trucks on the market if they don't do something. They will loose big numbers if they don't give us what we want.
Did anything stick out as really nice? How were the seats, the way the doors opened and closed, etc?
The seats were very comfy but they lack the good looks I was hoping for like the accent line right down the middle like there is in the King Ranch or the Platinum. Didn't really pay attention to the doors and such but the interior certainly felt high class with the way everything flowed and the soft touch materials all around.
As for the aluminum alloy, I am pretty optimistic on it. Really, they stole most of the formula from their Jag and Land Rover days. I did some research and the Alloy from the other brands it has held up pretty well. My buddy has a older Jag XJ with aluminum fenders, hood, etc in the salt spreading capitol of Winnipeg. He said he has had zero corrosion issues and is a "Auto wash" sort of guy. You never know, till you know but I doubt with the investment made by ford on this that it will be a flop.
I agree .... they did not come out with something that is not going to outperform the materials that they were using prior to. They have been using aluminum on the the hoods of F-150's for like 10 years now.
But now that TS has moved from Ford, I am sure he'll be all over us if we have issue with them.... :nana:
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We'll see how it goes with this new house I may be into by the end of November. If the garage is too small (short), I may be forced into an SUV of some kind. I hope not, as I really want to stay in a truck if possible.
I would be willing to wait until the spring when they always have "Employee Pricing" and other incentives. I think they are holding off and will push hard on the sales when they actually hit the floors. I agree that they are probably doing what they can to blow out the '14's.
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These trucks are incredibly low as you can see I am taller than it at just 6 feet. So if you don't have to duck to get in the garage you should be fine :funny:
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It's the length more than anything else, in this case. The door is actually high enough for me to get the PSD into the garage, it just may stick out the door so I can't close it! I go back next week for a home inspection and will bring my measuring tape. I think the crew cab F150's a a few inches shorter than my crew cab PSD. My coworker is actually in the same complex and says he can just squeak his 2014 Extended cab 6.5'.
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I never had any problems with the aluminum hoods on any of my F-150's. (Don't ask about the damn modular motors.) My concerns with paint on the new F-150 are more related to aftermarket / body shop paint work. Aluminum is notoriously hard to paint properly in anything less than perfect conditions. That rarely happens in a collision shop.
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I'm really liking everything about the new F150!
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very cool and love the front ends. That must not have been a 4x4. that does look low. Or maybe that is the trend....maybe that will be the trend for the F250's/350's as the bed box is sooooooo damn high, makes towing a 5er almost a nightmare.
I have to be totally honest...i am seriously looking at RAM's for my next HD. I like the fact that you can get a 3500 in the same config as a 2500...Ford nor GM offers that.
Problem is that Ram now thinks they can get the same pricing for their trucks....you can no longer buy a 40K Dodge truck, they are just as expensive as Fords and GM's now days.
Any photos of the interior?
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I never had any problems with the aluminum hoods on any of my F-150's. (Don't ask about the damn modular motors.) My concerns with paint on the new F-150 are more related to aftermarket / body shop paint work. Aluminum is notoriously hard to paint properly in anything less than perfect conditions. That rarely happens in a collision shop.
Just don't get in an accident and you'll be fine! :nana:
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Insurance and repairs were some of the concerns I had when me and pockets talked about this. I also recommended he at least drive other brand trucks... except Dodge or in this case "Ram".
So is it worth the coin over a loaded '14? Did you ever test drive the Chevy?
Tapatalkin...
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If I get into an accident that needs repaint it will be sold :judge:
I didn't notice if it was 4 x 4 whoops that might be why it was so low your right.
Mike, I did not test drive anything else and I guess I'm just too loyal unlike you, Tom, and now Jason!
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If I get into an accident that needs repaint it will be sold :judge:
I didn't notice if it was 4 x 4 whoops that might be why it was so low your right.
Mike, I did not test drive anything else and I guess I'm just too loyal unlike you, Tom, and now Jason!
whoa there .....i will be buying purely on price next go around.
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If I get into an accident that needs repaint it will be sold :judge:
I didn't notice if it was 4 x 4 whoops that might be why it was so low your right.
Mike, I did not test drive anything else and I guess I'm just too loyal unlike you, Tom, and now Jason!
whoa there .....i will be buying purely on price next go around.
The truck market has to have the biggest markup in all vehicles. They are way overpriced if you ask me. Guess that's just what you need to pay to drive a truck these days. :boohoo:
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Jason is just being ridiculous... a dodge (edit: excuse me... a ram...) Crazy talk!
Tapatalkin...
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The issue is that we (the consumer) are more loyal to the brands than they are to themselves. The all share technology on the back end as well as the marketing teams meet up on a regular basis (I know as I happened to be at a hotel in Miami once while this took place, VERY hush hush, it was kinda funny). We truly get taken advantage of as customers.
For me, I hate to say it but I see benefits in every truck brand out there today. I know it's a pain to deal with an issue when it pops up, but if you have warranty, you have warranty. every brand has there stigma, you just have to weed out the pros and cons for your needs and preferences. I am hoping to really be looking for a new rig in the spring, but the prices really have me thinking I will have to get back into the used market. I will be doing a lot of test driving and out of my buddies, I expect them to have at least 3 of the options below for me to really take and try out.
If money wasn't an issue, here are my top 5 picks in no particular order (all 4x4 of course) :nana:
- 2015 Ecoboost Crew Cab Lariat with the FX4/heavy tow
- 2015 GMC with the 5.3 LTZ package
- 2015 Titan with the 5.0 Cummins
- 2015 Tundra limited with the 5.7
- 2015 Eco Diesel Ram Laramie
(OK, maybe they are pretty much in order... :whisp:)
If I decided against a truck next time around, I would say the only SUV that really grabs my attention is the new Grand Cherokee with the Diesel or 5.7.
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The issue is that we (the consumer) are more loyal to the brands than they are to themselves. The all share technology on the back end as well as the marketing teams meet up on a regular basis (I know as I happened to be at a hotel in Miami once while this took place, VERY hush hush, it was kinda funny). We truly get taken advantage of as customers.
For me, I hate to say it but I see benefits in every truck brand out there today. I know it's a pain to deal with an issue when it pops up, but if you have warranty, you have warranty. every brand has there stigma, you just have to weed out the pros and cons for your needs and preferences. I am hoping to really be looking for a new rig in the spring, but the prices really have me thinking I will have to get back into the used market. I will be doing a lot of test driving and out of my buddies, I expect them to have at least 3 of the options below for me to really take and try out.
If money wasn't an issue, here are my top 5 picks in no particular order (all 4x4 of course) :nana:
- 2015 Ecoboost Crew Cab Lariat with the FX4/heavy tow
- 2015 GMC with the 5.3 LTZ package
- 2015 Titan with the 5.0 Cummins
- 2015 Tundra limited with the 5.7
- 2015 Eco Diesel Ram Laramie
(OK, maybe they are pretty much in order... :whisp:)
If I decided against a truck next time around, I would say the only SUV that really grabs my attention is the new Grand Cherokee with the Diesel or 5.7.
I've got to agree with most of what you said. Many customers are so brand loyal that they seem oblivious to problems with "their" brand. For instance, they guy I work for in the winter is as Blue Oval as they come. Nobody else makes anything even worth looking at - in his mind. Of course one member of his fleet is a 2003 F-350 with the brandy- new (then) 6.0 liter Powerstroke. (The absolute worst year for an already problematic motor.) He bought it used after the first owner Lemon Lawed it. (That ought to tell you something.) But he figured we could fix anything and everything wrong with it. I can tell you with absolute certainty that this particular truck has been in the shop much more than any other truck in the fleet. When I suggested that "If that truck were a Chevy, you'd be calling it the biggest POS on the face of the earth," I got an earful about how it wasn't really all that bad. Yup, brand loyalty blindness.
In my humble opinion, almost every major brand of truck out there these days is pretty darn good. If any one of them was clearly superior, why would anybody buy anything else? And if one were clearly junk, why would anybody buy it? Yes, Ford out-sells everybody else and has for years. And, they make a pretty darn good truck. But I really like the way the GM products look and the Dodge / Ram is now a damn good truck too. I think it boils down to what an individual likes and what manufacturer happens to offer something that meets that particular individual's needs. And as most of you know, I moved away from Ford after many, many years after one too many "dumb engineering problems" pushed me away. Someday I may come back, but right now I'm quite happy with my Taco.
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Pockets, I'm telling you, just go drive one. Drive all of the other brands. They're not like women. They won't get mad at you for testing the waters. The worst you'll have to deal with is your friends ragging on you for going against your loyalty to a brand. I know from experience. I heard a bunch of crap. Mostly from people who could care less about what they drive.
BTW, my hate for Dodge comes from driving multiple Dodge's daily. It's not a blind dislike. My favorite truck out right now is the new Chevy. I want a High Country so bad. A big ol Dually would be fantastic. In white diamond. Incase anyone has like $70k they don't know what to do with.